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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Both political parties are a bunch of evil idiotic pricks. Each major party is the party of corporate influence. One is slightly more overt and explicit in their intention but it's not enough of a distinction to make identifying them worthwhile.

Okay, I acknowledged it. Now what?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you have a successful revolution when roughly 95% of people support either Republicans or Democrats?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They don't, actually. The US government has a shockingly low approval rate to begin with, and it's only getting worse over the years.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m not talking about “approval rates.” I’m talking about how, in any given election, less than 5% of the vote goes to third parties.

If third party candidates can’t get enough support to even come close to getting elected, how would we be able to get enough people organized to support a revolution? Voting takes very little effort, so I would expect the number of supporters to go down, not up.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The US has First Past the Post.

This may surprise you, but revolution is illegal.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

revolution is illegal

Does being illegal make it somehow easier to gain support?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

No, but it means measuring support for revolution by the results of elections where only about 2/3rds of Americans even vote to begin with is silly.

[–] Philote@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be replaced with what? You have a military backed group able to hold power and enforce true democracy or whatever that can’t be corrupted to the same ends sitting in the sidelines? If so I’m down.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Consider reading The State and Revolution. The people run the new government as an "administration of things," and not as career parliamentarianism. Units democratically decide things, and send delegates for higher units that decide things relating to multiple units, with instant recall elections.