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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Maestro@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Probably still better than the fascist GOP alternatives though

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yet neither is worthy of support.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This attitude is why we keep getting pulled further to the right.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That’s literally what voting for the lesser of two evils does.

If you want to start moving to the left, you need to vote for a left wing party.

If you say that as a US resident, you either don’t understand how our electoral system works, or you’re trying to push some fifth column bullshit.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They've done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren't complicit.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Ah yes the non Fascist Democrats sanctioning the ICC.

Slightly more "moderate" Fascists are Fascists as well.

Democrats are more right wing than 2016 Republicans right now. It's time to abandon this myth that voting for them is somehow going to fix anything.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Democrats are more right wing than 2016 Republicans right now.

Lmaoo. What a disingenuous argument.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bro we're just sanctioning the ICC for proscecuting war criminals. We're abusing presidential powers to ship weapons used to commit Genocide and also abuse those power to bypass congress the same way Trump did. Just abusing presidential powers to implement illegal border policies. Bro stop nitpicking you only mentioned like 5 things you can't even mention 6 things bro.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not a fan of Biden, but he’s not the one shipping the weapon’s. Congress approved that, he held it back for a little until Congress started working toward a bill to force him to ship them and he relented. Should have stuck to his guns, imho and let them pass the bill to overrule him so it’d look bad on Congress for doing it, but the sad thing is that he’d just look like he was in the way of what a large portion of the country apparently wants. The GOP is all about being on Israel’s side.

The president doesn’t have as much power as people think he does.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The president has more power than you think he does. And Biden made sure to abuse it for Fascist policies

The Biden administration once again bypasses Congress on an emergency weapons sale to Israel

US uses loophole to keep 100 arms sales to Israel under the radar amid Gaza war - Biden administration not required to disclose sales below set dollar amount, in addition to public shipments worth over $573m

We even have Biden going full Trump mode just yesterday:

Biden Uses Trump 'Muslim Ban' Maneuver to Cap Asylum Seekers

But when Biden does the things we were in shambles about when Trump did them, it's okay right?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aside from a few blind idiots I think most people are seeing those things and saying "wow Biden REALLY wants to lose huh...

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Biden is just starting the car for Trump and making sure the Fascism engine is running smoothly before Orange Man even sits down in the driver seat.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You keep using the word fascist but I don't think you understand what it means... The fact that this was voted on and the party was divided is proof that it isn't fascism

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So you are saying that if I find votes the republicans are divided on you magically have a point? Why is the party not voting as a party to begin with? Does this mean that some Democrats are actually Republicans if it's not convenient?

We just went from a 2 party to a 1.5 party system in order to deny the Democrats are getting in line to pass this highly Fascist law to sanction the ICC for proscecuting war criminals.

Tell me what was the point of voting Democrat instead of Republican again? To prevent literally this right?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you want the party to vote as a block no matter what? And you're complaining about fascism? Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Okay so fascism is when the Republicans vote the same.

Now I pull up this article and you say the Republicans are not fascists right?

When it comes to Democrats doing the Fascist thing suddenly people slap on all these interesting requirements for it to be Fascism. When Trump did a Muslim ban it was super duper Fascism instantly. Selling weapons to Saudi for the Genocide of Yemenis? Omega Fascism! Biden uses the same powers to support GENOCIDE but suddenly it doesn't count because the sun and the moon aren't aligned in June and the grass on my lawn grows a little faster than usual.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You were talking about the fascist Democrats, remember? It's not requirements, it's what fascism is, an authoritarian regime under the control of a single person.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

You were saying that republicans voting the same is what makes them Fascist.

People were calling 2016 Trump a Fascist. Not that doesn't count we're going for the plan2025 meme where unlike 2016 this time the Republicans will actually do all their evil plans which they totally couldn't do in 2016.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're presenting a graph on how the house voted on grounding MTG's attempt to oust Johnson as speaker.

Present the graph on how the house voted regarding the ICC.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Oh Fascism only applies to current day vote and if current day vote is Republicans. Not yesterday vote. My bad.