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[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's like saying Trump gets credit for everything that happened under his term even if somebody else did it, like the vaccine developed in Germany getting first to market

https://apnews.com/article/israel-settlements-illegitimate-palestine-biden-rescind-law-0bed7cf5d6f98012193e9f5075eb719a

But no, that's not how it works, unless you expect Biden to go in with the US military and declare war on Israel's government

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I expect Biden to put sanctions on israel and withold weapons when they violate war crimes.

Biden has also not undone Trumps move of moving the israeli embassy onto stolen land meaning Biden is on board with it.

Trump gets credit for the Zionism during his term, Biden gets credit for his own Zionism. Or need you be reminded that Biden openly calls himself a Zionist?

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/israel-rejects-plan-reopen-us-consulate-palestinians-jerusalem/100601690

Are you expecting Biden to send the US military to enforce actions like that? How else will he make it happen on ground controlled by Israeli security forces without permission from Israel?

He canceled the previous veto policy;

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/29/netanyahu-biden-gop-effort-to-sanction-icc-00160387

Direct sanctions

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-expected-impose-new-sanctions-against-occupied-west-bank-outposts-axios-2024-03-14/

Has in fact already withheld weapons (yeah it should've been done earlier, but Trump is the kind of person who'd make a point of supplying more).

https://apnews.com/article/israel-weapons-shipment-us-eed365ebef0477ba74bf9848cacae4f4

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/05/10/pause-us-joins-other-states-stopping-arms-transfers-israel

GOP, Trump's party, want to enforce continued weapon sales to Israel and prevent Biden from halting it

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-gop-pushes-israel-weapons-bill/story?id=110228315

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Mhhh yes, Biden is "witholding weapons"

US-made munitions used in deadly strike on Rafah tent camp, CNN analysis shows

We can thank Genocide Joe for israel bombing refugee tent camps. How did the investigation of that bombing turn out again? Israel definitely isn't committing war crimes according the Genocide Joe right? Because that would invoke Leahy law and prevent arms exports.

Thank you for linking the most minute of irrelevant details where Biden makes a symbolic gesture while supporting Genocide. He sanctions 4 colonists and some random illegal colonies in the west bank instead of the terror government that is responsible for those colonies to begin with. I haven't read what happened to the colony sanctions but those 4 colonists already had their sanctions removed.

You are so focused on the details in rhetoric that you fail to observe both parties being the exact same in actions.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Israel is capable of manufacturing bombs all of their own so it wouldn't have stopped anything. Yes he should have cut off weapons almost immediately, but you know perfectly well that the Trump who promised to ban Palestinians from USA and mass deport people would support Israel actively instead.

You are so focused on the details in rhetoric that you fail to observe both parties being the exact same in actions.

You're actively lying to yourself

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Israel is capable of manufacturing bombs all of their own so it wouldn’t have stopped anything

I've debunked that argument like 20 times on here by now I am amazed someone still uses it.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-pm-serious-about-expanding-local-arms-production-reducing-dependence-on-imports/

Apparently they think they can cover everything but vehicles and ships, and they aren't losing nearly as many planes to their enemy as Russia has

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

That is why Netanyahu needs tank shells from Biden so badly.