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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And some people will point at people individual choices rather than the corporations and states who promoted this lifestyle.

What pisses me the most about ecologists nowadays is how liberals they are. If you want to feel good about yourself, feel free, but don't pretend all people are responsible for climate change by themselves because they're eating meat.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Systems can be broken and incentivise poor behaviour while individual actions also make a difference.

Besides, where will your political change come from? people who wont even change their diet? Just like how all those environmental protections were brought into being by people who criticised the people chaining themselves to trees for thinking individual actions mattered?

The meat industry is terrified of vegans, they spend millions rewriting laws and producing propaganda to limit us. maybe they have reasons why.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The industry loves vegans. It is an extremely profitable industry because those people are wealthier than average and already fanatised for their products. You're a fool if you think you're fighting the industry. You merely fight one industry for the benefit of another one.

The meat industry is fine. The terrified ones are the stupid conservative. But are they stupid or terrified? They're merely using the vegan propaganda against them.

And oh boy is it easy to do! Vegans are already full fanatics about their ideology. It's a full blown religion at this point : either you are vegan or a heretic causing the end of the world. If you're not vegan, you are personally responsible for the climate change. Isn't this the point of this article?

Conservative have nothing to do to make propaganda against this. Ecologists are as fascists as the fascists themselves, but in a green color.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You do not need a single vegan fake meat alternative to make vegan dishes. Eating vegan food gives corporations less power. While the animal product industry is one of the most capitalist drivers of cruelty and environment issues we have.

You really should read up on cognitive dissonance. And also educate yourself on what fascism is.