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On Tuesday, voters in Crook County passed measure 7-86, which asked voters if they support negotiations to move the Oregon/Idaho border to include Crook County in Idaho.  The measure is passing with 53% of the vote, and makes Crook County the 13th county in eastern Oregon to pass a Greater Idaho measure.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

some 300 people live in some of those counties, which is like a city block in portland. If they want to be idaho so much why not just move there?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can really sympathize with these guys. I live in a blue dot in one of the reddest states in the country. I have been talking with my friends about doing this exact thing.

Technically this is not secession. It's partitioning. They want to partition themselves and join Idaho. Just like I'd love to partition my city away from the shit hole parasitic state it's attached to.

The state level representation just isn't there for them. They're so dramatically in the minority that they have no voice in state government at all. So changes are mandated to them, and they're disillusioned. They love their home and they want the government to recognize them.

Set aside the crazy bullshit they want. The grievance is legitimate, the government completely ignores their desires, they haven't been able to get the government to acknowledge that, and so they retaliate by saying they don't want to be a part of it anymore.

To be clear, there is no resolution for people in this situation. They have no control over the state government, no ability to change it. The only choice is to leave, and faced with moving or a long shot at leaving or taking your home with you, you'd choose to take your home, every time.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is caused by Gerrymandering and antidemocratic voter suppression. But Republicans don't want to fix those issues because they'd be a regional party overnight limited to just the south.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is something both parties are guilty of. Neither is all that interested in fixing it until they're the victims of it.

This doesn't get fixed with a two party system.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, those vote suppressing Democrats...

I do think there needs to be a dissolution of the parties, but accusing both sides of being the same is not valid nor useful in the state (lol, country?) that we currently live in.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying both sides are the same. I'm accusing two different political parties of employing the same shitty tactics, which they most definitely are.

Is one party more guilty of it? Sure. But denying that the Democrats are gerrymandering is delusional.

Oregon's 2021 congressional map received an F from the gerrymandering project for giving one party a significant advantage.

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card?planId=rec6qj1vAOKsBnXnu

Drawn and enacted exclusively by Democrats.

Don't lie to yourself. They're still fucking politicians.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Please show me a better map for Oregon districts

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are several available at the link I shared. It might be more than one click but, because you're presumably able to read, a big smart guy like you should have no trouble finding them.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Seriously, just click the fucking link and look around, there are multiple proposals for better maps.