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Conservative editor backtracks after seeming to use n word regarding Haitian migrants
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Ah, I see, the "principle of charity" includes "I know when to be charitable and it's when I feel like it."
Interesting how you didn't argue against the "best version" of "she became black."
Again, you're a mod. Do better. Nowhere did I even imply 'when I feel like it'.
You argue against the best version of the opponent's argument. My argument transcends any accusations of racism, but does not preclude them which makes it the better form. You refusing to get that is sea-lioning at this point. Figureidout or let it go.
I am not a mod in this community either. I know you keep wanting to make that somehow relevant, but it isn't. In the communities I moderate, it's my job to enforce the rules. It's certainly not my job to listen to someone excuse overt racism and not say "no, it's racism."
And the best version of Trump's "she became black" claim was the one you made- that it wasn't racist. You didn't argue against it, you made it.
Are you trying to argue that in the forums you actually moderate you suddenly smarten up and start thinking rationally? What changes in you from one link to another that performs this miraculous change?
Nope, I'm not trying to argue that. But keep bringing up how I moderate communities other than this one as if it's relevant to you excusing Trump's racism.
Your seeming inability to comprehend the tenets of basic rational argumentation and outright refusal to accept what anyone says to you that you disagree with, supported or not, are glaring flaws in someone whose job it is to evaluate what people are saying in their forums and arbitrate fairly.
Did I not expressly agree that Trump is racist? Show me where I "excuse racism". All I have done is simply (to some) state that "racism accusations are an unnecessary complication to successfully counter Trumps core argument". As I've said already: if someone like MLK jr, or Al Sharpton, or Maya Angelou said "Kamala was pandering to her heritage" your 'that person is racist!' counter would be laughed at. It is besides the point. Nobody disagrees that Trump is racist. Let it go as it doesn't matter for the best counter-argument.
ohh my god youre a mod who doesnt understand how the platform works. I mean wtf!
I am not a moderator in c/news. That is not true.
you have a lot of homework. go learn about the platform you moderate. While youre at it https://virtualspeech.com/blog/guide-to-debating go learn to use it too
If you feel that I am not doing a proper job as a moderator in the communities I moderate which, again, does not include this community, please report me to the administrators. You can find their contact information on the lemmy.world front page.
are.... are you a bot?
Nope. I also don't care about the downvotes in my previous comment despite you thinking that downvotes mean everything here.
If you downvote this comment? I don't care.
If this comment gets downvoted 10,000 times, I still won't care.
Believe it or not, you can't make me give a shit about fake internet points.
Also, based on your link, aren't you supposed to be contextualizing your argument right now?
downvoting means i dont think you are adding anything useful to the conversation. I see you learnd to do it yourself at last! You started all this off by posting a false dichotomy and acting like I had asserted it. Everything youve posted since has been waffle. THE VOTING SYSTEM ISSSSS THE SITE. ITS HOW IT WORKS!
Cool, still don't care.
If you don't think I'm adding anything useful, you're free to stop responding to me any time.
maybe you need to go and do something else for a while!
Flying Squid is a stay at home dad and he argues/posts on Lemmy all day, every day. Not sure he knows what grass is.
He's clearly an objective, rational person with totally real friends
Nope, I'm just fine. I'm not the one getting all het up here.
kinda looks like it :/ more baseless personal attacks.
If you say so. And yet I still don't care if I'm downvoted. Or if someone doesn't like what I have to say. Or if they feel I don't contribute to the discussion.
I don't know you or anything about you. Your opinion of me has no relevance. I'm only even talking to you because I'm bored and waiting for my kid's next class to start.
If Maya Angelou said 'she became black' would you still say it was racist?
What evidence do you have that she would ever say such a thing? Or are you just now making a horrible slur against Maya Angelou along with excusing Trump's racism?
Answer the 'if'.
I would answer that "if" the same way I would answer the question, "if Jerry Seinfeld said that Jews controlled Hollywood and the banks, would that be antisemitic?"
The answer is: It's not something he would say. And in your example, it's not something she would say.
So now you presume to know what people say. Easier to answer the hypothetical imo. Weird choice. Your tap-dancing to avoid answering yes or no tells me my point is starting to sink in so I'll leave it there.
We're off topic and I'm done relitigating this. It's really not that difficult a concept to understand. Read that wiki article I linked you about the Principle of Charity. It will really help you in the future.
Yes, I presume that Maya Angelou wouldn't say something racist. Duh.