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[–] Seraph@fedia.io 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fine, then you figure out what the square root of a negative number actually is!

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My calculator says they are an "error".

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Calculators also say that dividing by 0 is an error, but logic says that the answer is infinite. (If i recall, it's more correctly 'undefined', but I'm years out of math classes now.)

That is, as you divide a number by a smaller and smaller number, the product increases. 1/.1=10, 1/.01=100, 1/.001=1000, etc. As the denominator approaches 0, the product approaches infinity. But you can't quantify infinity per se, which results in an undefined error.

If someone that's a mathematician wants to explain this correctly, I'm all ears.

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It approaches positive and negative infinity, depending on the sign of the denominator. The result must not be two different numbers at once, so dividing by zero cannot be defined.

There are other reasons, too, but I forgot about them.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Serious question because I am math-challenged.

What things are we able to quantify by finding the square root of a negative number aside from square roots of negative numbers?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Electrical engineers use them for calculating AC-circuits. In a DC circuit, you only have to worry about how much volt and amperes are in each part of the circuit. In an AC circuit, you also have to worry about the phase, cause the voltage goes up and down. The phase means where in that up and down you are.

The complex number is interpreted as a point on a 2-dimensional plane; the complex plane. You have the "normal" number as 1 axis, and orthogonal to that the imaginary axis. The angle of the vector to that point gives the phase.

They can be generally used for such "wavy" (ie periodical) processes. But I think this particular field of electrical engineering is the main application.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I'm glad to hear you say that, cause after sending I worried that I didn't make much sense.

Equations. When we model things with equations, sometimes they don't have a 'solution' at a particular place, unless we use the formal math rules of 'imaginary' numbers like i. Someone else in the comments mentioned electric conductance/resistance in circuits as an example.