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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Starting ones self on fire is a suicide attempt, regardless of political motive.

Is being a soldier assigned to conduct an assault operation also a suicide attempt?

Knowingly doing something that might kill you is not the sole criteria for a suicide attempt. If they weren't suicidal it wasn't a suicide attempt.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doing something that will almost assuredly kill you is a suicide attempt.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

Trying to take your own life out of depression and being willing to give your life to a cause differ in intent, goals, context and likely methods.

What benefits do you see from classifying them as the same thing? They seem very different to me.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Suicide: the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally

~Merriam-Webster Dictionary

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You shouldn't try to answer clinical questions with Merriam-Webster. It's a very redditor thing to do and just as incorrect as that would suggest.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Lol. I'm a therapist, and you're being pedantic. Suicide means killing yourself. He may not have been clinically "suicidal" but he still attempted suicide

Edit: I thought you were the original commenter when I said you were being pedantic

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree, but Merriam-Webster remains a bad way to try to squash claims of nuance. You are correct independent of the bad and redditor-esque method of argument you chose. You should know very well that texts with actual authority exist that better establish these things, like the DSM in this case.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago

The DSM is great for billing insurance and not much else imo