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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No sir. I’m not seeing that with “Nazi Flag at Trump Rally”

I misspoke on this part. I was thinking of the confederate flags being pared with trump flags/rallies.

CPAC isn’t even on the radar of the average voter.

I don't think that particularly matters. If your party's political ideology aligns well enough with neo nazis for them to have a seat at the table, you have a neo-nazi party. Just because they're subtle about it doesn't make the supporters innocent.

They’re engaged with it in a fearful way because that’s how Fox News gave it to them.

That's the main mechanism of fascism. They can be unaware of it all they like, they're still supporting fascism. You're still hillbilly trash so to speak.

This is a third of our country. Alienating them plays into the hand of extremists.

Yeah, it's a third of our country. And ignoring how they're flirting with fascism also plays into the hands of the extremists. There is no winning in a situation like this. And so I'd rather be honest given that it's a no win situation.

If playing nice with fascists/fascist supporters was a viable strategy, we wouldn't be arguing about this.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you can't distinguish between the fascists and the every day people hoodwinked by them then we might as well just start gearing up for ACW 2. Because that's where this leads. Nobody is asking you to refrain from punching the actual Nazis. Just not to drive rural America into their arms with actual elitism. Because it's going to be people like me and my friends who have to go in there and risk our lives to deprogram the "hillbilly trash" who look like shit but are actually extremely good at duct tape engineering and making shit explode.

If I could I would handcuff you together until you figured out you have the exact same core desires of a sane government, freedom, and enough income to feed your family.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you can’t distinguish between the fascists and the every day people hoodwinked by them then we might as well just start gearing up for ACW

I can and do, which is why I use the term fascists/fascist supporters. The everyday people who have been hoodwinked are the supporters. Trump, Vance, DeSantis, etc are the outright fascists. If I wasn't making that distinction I'd just call them all fascists and be done with it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sure. That's exactly the message you send when you call them trash.