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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know you're joking but... People say that about cannabis, but there are plenty of right-wing people who love getting high. Doesn't make them think more clearly.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I am very, very pro cannabis and I was not joking.

In my experience, cannabis does make you question authority and being told what to do (to be fair, that might just be how it affects me).

I’ve been to Japan, there is a huge culture of respect and following authority and just trusting the authority has honour. Psychoactive substances encourage you to think twice instead of trusting authority based on tradition.

Just my two cents.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 2 months ago

It's not the plant, it's what it reveals about the people using scare tactics. Cannabis makes you question authority when it's illegal and you see how people in power have been lying to you about how dangerous it is. Legal, socially acceptable cannabis just makes you goofy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Again- lots of right-wing people love using cannabis. I can tell you from living right by the Illinois border but nowhere near a big city that I see Trump bumper stickers on big trucks at the dispensary constantly.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Right and left wing are not the same as authority and lack of authority, it’s actually a different dimension (as shown on political compasses).

Japan’s issue is their hierarchy and authority, them being right wing is not really what makes cannabis incompatible.

Idk where the right wing connection came from

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump voters specifically are authoritarian. I think you know that.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, which is what differentiates them from the old country club conservatives, they don’t just have right wing views of the economy, they want a leader with absolute power.

Which is why it’s so dangerous and we shouldn’t be taking about left or right wing but authority vs freedom.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

It doesn't even matter in the end. Their problem is clearly birth rate, and they were already criminalizing possession very harshly. Criminalizing use will just incentivize those that want to use to never actually return to their country. In essence making it worse.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The terms right and left wing originated as a shorthand due describing monarchists and anti-monarchists. Authoritarianism is THE defining characteristic of the right. Things like economic policies only come into it because authoritarians prefer economic policies that give more power to economic elites.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, you can define it differently for sure, but modern politics basically use left and right wing as whether you want more hierarchy vs equality. Once you established that, the question becomes, do you force that by authority or do you do systems thinking to get the environment to encourage that.

There are right wing people who believe in small government. They want hierarchy and “better” people to be on top, they just either want the market to decide (old school cons) or by taking it by force (GQP).

But I do agree with you, right wing politics will always end up with a minority having most of the power, the how is what separates Trump vs Cheney.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe different people are affected differently. You may be adversely affected by penicillin, I may not be. Metformin may work for you, I may require insulin?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

cannabis does make you question authority and being told what to do

only when its illegal, because you start asking yourself what else they lied to you about.

i dont think this is an effect from the drug itself. the 'creativity' you get can go either way tbh.