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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vyacheslav Volodin, the chairman of the State Duma, the lower house of parliament, and a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, said Moscow would be forced to use "more powerful and destructive weapons" against Ukraine if Kyiv started firing long-range Western missiles at Russia.

Hey Vyacheslav, what weapons besides nuclear (and maybe biological) weapons does russia have that it hasn't used against Ukraine already? Do you think if you use a nuclear weapon against Ukraine that that ends the war? Do you think the rest of the world will just say "welp, I guess russia used a nuke, better let them have Ukraine now". Not even close.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

It's a nuke threat. Again.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Russia uses nukes in Ukraine to "win" the war. Now they control land that has large swaths that are completely unlivable and non-productive for farming. And the "livable" parts Russia would have to spend huge sums of money to re-build the infrastructure from the blast(s).

Even if the rest of the world let's them get away with that (which I doubt they would) it doesn't seem like a very good strategy.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Also, fallout moves, and they're literally next door.

Their water supplies would destroyed.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

If they nuke Ukraine into oblivion, they're not spending a single kopeck building it back. They'll engineer a second Holodomor to "get their money's worth" before that.