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    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Hasn't Debian relaxed its stance and now allows you to fairly easily use nonfree software?

    [–] oo1@lemmings.world 23 points 1 month ago

    yes, I think the main thing is when the nonfree firmware was included (user can opt-out) as a default at install. So out of the box support for most common hardware became way better.

    It was always pretty easy to add nonfree repositories, but having to manually sort out wifi firmware after an install was a pain.

    [–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Yes this meme is dated. You can run proprietary stuff in bookworm with just a couple of check boxes.

    [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Yes, but it's significantly less automatic. Testing distros on an old laptop, Debian wouldn't support the network card out of the box and I had to use USB tethering from my phone to get the necessary drivers off the internet. Ubuntu just had them in the image and installed them automatically.

    [–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Was this with the most recent version of Debian? Bookworm includes non-free firmware with the installer now.

    [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

    Looking at release dates, just a couple days before Bookworm came out. I'll have to try that one.

    [–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

    Yeah wtf. I can't even figure out how it would stop you.