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[–] Deebster@programming.dev 166 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The source story is worth a read.

Marrero’s background is in Navy intelligence, and she earned a master’s degree in business administration with a concentration in information security and digital management

Incredible.

she soon changed the “STINKY” Wi-Fi network name to another moniker that looked like a wireless printer — even though no such general-use wireless printers were present on the ship

Why not just switch off broadcasting the SSID?

[The CO and XO] then conducted another sweep inside the ship. Although the network that appeared to be a wireless printer appeared on their personal devices during their search, neither made additional inquiries regarding that network

No-one's coming out of this looking good.

Marrero’s secret Starlink dish was removed the same day, and Marrero told another unidentified crew member the next day that it was authorized for in-port use — prompting sailors to re-install the illegal Starlink.

It just keeps going!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, if the lead NCO of a unit is just going to flat out lie then a lot of people are going to believe it. I can't imagine being a lower NCO or enlisted and thinking command actually authorized the chiefs to break operational security for entertainment, but only them. Every chief in that crew should be busted and flagged against promotion again. The investigation was completely right to say if they didn't know, they should have.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I may have missed it in this article, though I believe I read elsewhere, that she got busted down one rank and that's it. I know military in general is having retention and recruitment issues, but to me this is more than just a busting down offense. That the senior enlisted on a ship would so nonchalantly disregard OPSEC demonstrates either a clear lack of understanding, or worse, something more nefarious.

We saw a naval officer relieved of command for having the scope backwards on his rifle. This, to me, rises to a much higher level.

[–] flyingchaucer@lemmy.sdf.org 98 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We saw a naval officer relieved of command for having the scope backwards on his rifle.

Well in that case, it was just a matter of bad optics.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Take my upvote and get out of my sight.

[–] martinb@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Gotta keep your eye on the target

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The door is over there, good day Sir.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

There's a lot of punishment that doesn't show up in the top line in the military. She may be flagged to lose her security clearance, (dishonesty, incompetence, and corruption) which would be the end of her career. They may also outright flag her as not eligible for re-enlistment. She's certainly not ever going to live that down and it's not a counseling form that disappears in six months. I'd be very surprised if she ever promotes again.

All that said, where I was, in the infantry, lying to your commander like that, while endangering the unit, would be either an Other Than Honorable discharge or a Big Chicken Dinner. (Bad Conduct discharge, do not pass go, do not bother with the VA, do not collect retirement, hope future employers never ask about your discharge)

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah and that destroyer CO relieved of command for letting his sailors get treatment for COVID (before we had a vaccine) but this sailor just gets busted a rank for breaching OPSEC?! It's not like she did it for fun, she's probably compromised by some foreign actor. I've heard stories of the military making dumb decisions but damn.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

First thought I had after read through, how much did that masters cost and you didn't learn that you can turn off the broadcast name so only people who know it's there can connect? Probably not even a real degree, freakonomjcs did an episode maybe 10 years ago that said probably 5% of degrees are fake, bet it's 20% now, lying is culturally through the roof.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

MBAs should be renamed Master's in Bullshit Administration.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Having an understanding of technology generically and knowing how specific technologies work are vastly different things. The first takes great effort. The second is done by a nerd who can’t sleep and is curious. If you didn’t do the second then you don’t know anything about that specific thing.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, and very often the only difference between BS level courses and MS level were the need to write extra papers and get better grades. And almost all of it was theoretical.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, what bothers me in industry is when people are like "these damned kids don't know nothing" when in reality you are talking about VERY motivated people who are highly intelligent but without experience. They just need direction and the chance to build confidence.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have a general understanding of tech without a degree tho.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you complied with the second part of my statement.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Woah, i missed the second part somehow!

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The levels of incompetence.