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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I maintain that debating fetal personhood is a huge mistake because it goes down a philosophical road where you can't clearly define things like when someone feels pain.

There is a much simpler reason to make abortion legal- for the same reason it is not legal to harvest a corpse's organs without the person's consent before they die or the reason you can't be forced to donate a kidney. Being forced to use your organs for someone else's benefit against your will is illegal in every other situation. Even if it means a human will die without them. That doesn't matter if it is something that will eventually develop into someone with full human rights or if it has them already. It's just not relevant. It's about the rights of the person whose body will be used.

[–] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most of these people would be okay with harvesting a dead person's organs so long as they aren't theirs.

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is mainly a religious argument from people who think I knew you in the womb means something but discard all the other verses in the Bible

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which was entirely made up and pushed through a concerted effort back in the 70s. Goldwater even warned of it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It was mostly just Catholics who were anti-abortion before the 70s. Then the Baptists discovered it was an issue they could latch onto and others followed.

And it wasn't just a political reason the Baptists latched on to it. They realized legal abortion meant less white babies because you're a lot less likely to be able to get one if you're poor.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'd show the fundies a plucked chicken and assert its personhood but I don't think they'd get the joke.

[–] cows_are_underrated 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks. I havent heard that argument yet.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Tbf, I think organ donation should be opt-out, and you should be ineligible to receive any organ or tissue (including blood).