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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Or you can start with unions...

[–] voltaa@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And how do you think unions come about? Historically it's by setting things on fire.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By actually talking to your coworkers about unionization, which is scarier for many of us than fantasies of an anonymous crowd.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

It mostly depends whether unions are successful or not under the current administration. Unionizing has gone bad before. You can't always blame the workers for not believing it would help, theres a lot of pressure from the other side.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need Syndicates and Worker/Consumer cooperatives as an end goal. Unions aren't the finish line and are only a bandaid over capital ownership.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Markets aren't the finish line either, to be fair. Those retain the mechanisms that bring about inequality.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago
[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The protests and strikes they keep quashing are the alternative to fires, destruction, and violence. It’s a social agreement the factory and warehouse owners want us to have forgotten.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Only for them to be destroyed in another 20 years by the rich

Nah. Break out the guillotines, it worked well for the French.