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The Vegan Society’s stance on the ‘vegan’ vs. ‘plant-based’ debate (www.vegansociety.com)
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[–] barf@vegantheoryclub.org 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Until recently I’ve only ever seen vegan “plant based” foods, and so didn’t give much thought to to this. Whatever, if it makes people less weird about vegan food choices at the store that’s fine by me.

But today I found out Morningstar is now labeling themselves and all of their products as plant based, and most of their crap is vegetarian with milk and eggs. And they’re one of the top brands.

So now I hate “plant based” and have a strong opinion about it.

[–] flughoernchen 7 points 2 months ago

Same. I've also seen non-food products like detergents that weren't even vegetarian labeled as "plant based". Many companies seem to use the term as synonym for "contains some amount of plant stuff", making it entirely meaningless.

[–] Arcanepotato@vegantheoryclub.org 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see a lot of honey in 'plant based' foods.

This is what plant based capitalism gets us - selling products to a wider audience vs the struggle for animal liberation.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I got into an argument, in person, on a street in Brooklyn, with the owner of Mike's Hot Honey in 2018 who insisted his product was vegan and that many vegans use honey and he sells to them.

[–] Arcanepotato@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 2 months ago

I wanted to take my husband to a fancy restaurant for his birthday a few years ago and there were a few restaurants that advertised plant based tasting menus...2/3 with fucking honey. Including a restaurant that was totally 'plant based'.

But I only knew because I thought to ask what they meant by plant based.

Serves me right for considering eating at a restaurant.

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 2 months ago

From what I've heard the US in particular is pretty lax with the term "plant based." It basically means nothing over there. Where I live is pretty shit too but here you aren't allowed to call something plant based if it has animal parts/secretions.