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Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages' location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, like... Somehow people are forgetting the terrorist organization that created the situation isreal is using as an excuse to commit genocide IS STILL A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. I feel like people are projecting the US dem vs repub conflict on this, and feeling like because one side is bad the other side has to be good, rite? But in reality it's just a whole lotta murder. Pretty one sided sure but it's not like they're killing hostages in self defense. Not out here trying to be both siding but trying to look at things objectively and realistically and for some reason writing it as a public comment so people can yell at me for being antisemitic and antisemites can yell at me for not being antisemitic.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Says the guy who clearly doesn't know the foundational Israeli military groups who would later become the actual Israeli military were avowed terrorist organizations who routinely bombed civilians and murdered Muslims for being Muslim and against Israeli terror.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You speak out of my heart right now. I couldn't have put it into better words.

It got so bad, that I once saw a Comment unironically advocating for the genocide of all Israelis having 200 + upvotes. This was when I put the Israel flag into my Profile.

I'll let you in on a secret: The Israel Flag in my Profile? I'm actually very conflicted about Israel. But the way I was seeing Israel unrightfully being bashed, the Hamas terror organization advocating for the literal text-book-definition genocide of Israelis praised, I just felt I had to put it in there.

Anyways, yeah, I wish we could have civilized discussions about this. But I am afraid this isn't possible. For whatever reason, civilized political discussions aren't possible anymore in the english-speaking internet (the Swiss Internet is still somewhat uninfected, but it also seems to be getting worse sadly)

I wish I could just block politics in general, but I don't want to let the genocide-advocates to reign unopposed. I don't want their opinions to seem in any way acceptable.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Good on you.

I think people are trying to reduce the most complicated problems in global politics into a simple good guy vs. bad guy narrative and that leads people down to all kinds of crazy thoughts.

To me the real enemy is hatred. Hatred of Palestinians have resulted in Israel having the corrupt and incompetent leadership of Netanyahu. Hatred of Israelis has led Palestinian to corrupt and incompetent leadership of Fatah on the West Bank and the corrupt and genocidal leadership of Hamas in Gaza. Those promoting hatred of either side are just pushing for the conflict to continue and like all conflicts in densely populated areas, there will be a lot of civilian casualties. The claim to be very upset by the loss of life but their actions indicate they want it to continue until "their side" kills the other.

Also how do you get flags on your username? I think I'll put both an Israeli and Palestinian flag on mine. If people that hate the people of either place want to hate, then I'm fine with them hating me too.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But you're advocating for genocide?