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You'd think midterms would be a great time to get your name out there and run high profile candidates to win House districts led by charlatans...

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's because they're not in it to actually win. A number of them are in it to act as spoiler specifically, why else do you think Jill Stein still around?

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

partially to keep the Democrats from straying too much from environmental concerns.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She should focus solely on the environment and climate change then instead of "WiFi causes cancer" and promoting vaccine hesitancy. She should also develop a facts based viewpoint on nuclear energy instead of fear mongering.

We have modern reaction designs that can consume existing nuclear waste. We literally have more nuclear waste around than we would if we were doing more nuclear projects.

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IIUC, renewables are becoming less costly compared to nukes than nukes.

Who's stopping people from challenging Stein?

If only 0.1% were US Green Party members, that's still 1/3rd a million.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nuclear reactors are quite expensive, but they provide some benefits we can't get from other renewables. They can be used to provide a consistent base load of power to the grid, and if we pick a good base load, we'll minimize time periods where we have extra or insufficient energy from solar and wind. And like I said, we can use nuclear reactors to burn nuclear waste. Being able to destroy waste is a big boon.

It's not on the general population to replace Stein. It's on the Green Party to appeal to the general population. In that regard it may actually be best that they don't field a presidential candidate. Hear me out. Right now you have just a small group of people who are voting on who should be the Green nominee. That person is going to be reflective of the small group, but will lack general appeal. It'll be someone who the Greens want, but not someone who the people in general want.

Democrats and Republicans are able to do this because they're large enough that their nominee has to be approved of by a substantial part of the population. That's something third parties don't have, and their candidates will be alienating. Libertarians are a good example where the small group wants to get rid of drivers licenses for instance, but the general population is absolutely against it.

Instead of asking about challenging Stein, we should be asking if any candidate chosen by the current Green party would actually be desired by the general population. And I don't think that is currently possible with how small and niche the party is. This is why they need to focus on local and state and congressional races.

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Libertarians are a good example where the small group wants to get rid of drivers licenses for instance, but the general population is absolutely against it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ

0:22

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And partially to collect more money from Putin for a third folk rock album.

Edit: For anyone else that wants in on or doubts that trainwreck here is her second album on bandcamp

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Presumably one needs relatively little money for that, and why are you defaming folk rock?

and now for a Russian band that plays Brazilian-influenced music that's acoustic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rovmW_mbaOI

3:15

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because before she wanted to be president Jill Stein was using her wealth to try and be a folk rock hero

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why does it have to be on Wikipedia to be true?

https://somebodyssister-steinselcer.bandcamp.com/album/circuits-to-the-sun-somebodys-sister

Here's her album you can also find it and some of her covers she did on discogs.

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It helps if it's on Wikipedia.

let's see:

https://forward.com/culture/355467/when-jill-stein-was-in-a-really-bad-folk-band-called-somebodys-sister/

okay, TIL: thank you.

It seems it lasted until the end of the 1990s.

and you seem to not like her because she's soft on Putin—which is legitimate.

any other objections?

wp:Green Party of the United States#Political positions