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Hersh Goldberg-Polin, 23. Originally from California, Goldberg-Polin immigrated to Israel with his family as a young child. He was taken at gunpoint by Hamas militants while at the Nova music festival.

In August his parents spoke at the Democratic party convention, where they were greeted by a crowd that chanted: “Bring them home.”

Eden Yerushalmi was in contact with the police and with her sisters after the attack. ‘They’ve caught me,’ were her last words to them.

Carmel Gat had been staying with her parents in kibbutz Be’eri on 7 October, one of the communities hardest hit by the attack. Hamas fighters broke into their home and kidnapped her; her mother was killed in the attack.

Alexander Lobanov’s five-month-old son was born while he was in captivity.

Almog Sarusi was taken hostage as his girlfriend, who was shot, succumbed to her injuries.

Ori Danino had been helping others try to escape when he was abducted.

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[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Are you really taking the word of Hamas, who kidnapped the people to begin with? The air raids killed the hostages in an underground tunnel? Yeah, okay.

If Hamas was concerned about the lives of the hostages they could have released them. Propaganda at best.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Propaganda is you believing that Israel wouldn't start an extermination campaign the very day after Hamas agreed to any internationally-agreed peace deal that didn't explicitly demand the IOF pulling out of Gaza.

Israel could've had these people back alive if they agreed to the July 2nd peace plan as the US and Hamas had supported, yet Netanyahu wants indefinite control of the Gaza strip and total extermination of the Palestinian people; The hostages are just a good excuse to keep useful idiots like you in line.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol are you just going through my post history and commenting on everything?

I’m not disagreeing that Netanyahu has ulterior motives. He’s going to do what he wants since there are still hostages.

Hamas is giving him every excuse to do so.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Turns out if you make multiple replies to a post replying to someone about why genocide is the fault of the victims and not the internationally-back apartheid state targeting civilians, you're gonna have someone like me calling out your bullshit on multiple posts. who knew?

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago

You’re putting words in my mouth. I’m sorry that you are not able to understand the conversation.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Are you really taking the word of a convicted apartheid state that runs a minimum of one torture camp that intentionally bombs civilians?

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I’m having a difficult time believing that Israel jets killed hostages located in an underground tunnel.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Why?

You don't believe all the released hostages who said the thing that scared them most was the Israeli bombing?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then you're as much an idiot as the rest of the morons who take Netanyahu's word. You can tell me what you think a 2000Lbs bomb would do to a hand-dug tunnel a few meters below the surface.

Especially one reliant on manual ventilation since there's little to no electrical power (hmm who did that I wonder?).

Even if Hamas killed them in cold blood, which is a stupid negotiating tactic by the way, they have infinitely more reasons for doing so considering the reality of most of the prison guards having their entire family lines wiped out by targeted attacks on civilians over 10 months.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago

Thank you for sharing all your hypothetical situations.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Omg you're doing it here too.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Appreciate the comment

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, when tons of explosives are dropped on Gaza, I take the word of Hamas that explosives killed hostages. Especially when other hostages were returned. Hamas gains nothing from their deaths.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You are suggesting that Hamas hasn’t murdered any of the hostages. Are you being serious?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am suggesting that they didn't murder these ones.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why? They have murdered hostages before, so there goes the personal gain theory.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're clearly an antagonizer. Some mute people they don't like. I don't because I want to know how much shit you spread. I'll no longer engage.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

I get it, you’re not going to engage… by engaging. Hey, at least you and Nick Fuentes are on the same page!

https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1788212004718575641