this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2024
41 points (71.1% liked)

News

23259 readers
3337 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Hersh Goldberg-Polin, 23. Originally from California, Goldberg-Polin immigrated to Israel with his family as a young child. He was taken at gunpoint by Hamas militants while at the Nova music festival.

In August his parents spoke at the Democratic party convention, where they were greeted by a crowd that chanted: “Bring them home.”

Eden Yerushalmi was in contact with the police and with her sisters after the attack. ‘They’ve caught me,’ were her last words to them.

Carmel Gat had been staying with her parents in kibbutz Be’eri on 7 October, one of the communities hardest hit by the attack. Hamas fighters broke into their home and kidnapped her; her mother was killed in the attack.

Alexander Lobanov’s five-month-old son was born while he was in captivity.

Almog Sarusi was taken hostage as his girlfriend, who was shot, succumbed to her injuries.

Ori Danino had been helping others try to escape when he was abducted.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hamas has claimed that they were killed during the air strike.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

You are right. Perhaps it is wise to believe the words of the kidnappers and not the people trying to rescue them. Perhaps it is not.

I’m referring to the previous poster going on about unrelated accusations that have nothing to do with the story.

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't characterize either party as being particularly free from bias. It's a shame that ground-level reporters have such a frequent tendency to die.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are both asshats and Netanyahu is a psychopath. No denying that.

If Hamas would release these fucking hostages Israel would lose the ability to continue their siege. But they won’t.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel constantly says they won't stop if hostages are released. They will only stop once they've killed all hamas, which by their definition of hamas is anyone in Gaza

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a source to go with that or are you just shooting from the hip?

[–] Baaahb@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oof you're a tool. Here's some.context: https://www.npr.org/2024/01/04/1222813493/what-will-it-take-for-israel-to-affirm-mission-accomplished-in-gaza-and-end-the-

That's 8 months old and everyone alreadt knew the hostages were just a political token benji was using to genocide the local ethnic minority.

Go ahead and your head out of your ass and play catch up with the rest of us. The powers that be dont give a shit about the hostages. Lol

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago

What does this transcript of a radio recording have to do with anything? I read the whole thing and don’t see what point you’re trying to make.

No one thinks Netanyahu wants the war to end. Right now he has free rein because Hamas continues to hold hostages and won’t free them.

It would be suicide for him to continue this if the hostages were freed.

I really appreciate your enthusiastic degrading comments directed at me.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-we-will-not-agree-to-hostage-deal-at-any-price-there-are-red-lines-we-wont-cross/

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu releases a video statement stressing that “we are working to attain another framework to release our captives, but I stress — not at any price.”

“We have red lines,” he continues, “including: we will not end the war, we will not pull the IDF out of the Strip, we will not release thousands of terrorists.”

The prime minister says that in addition to working to get the hostages out, Israel is working toward its other goals in the war — “the elimination of Hamas and to ensure that Gaza never again represents a threat.”

“We are working on all three of them together and we will not give up on any of them.”

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you. Got anything more recent than 9 months ago?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I see. No citation or sources are enough for you.

Israel hasn't done anything different since Oct 7th. They've even assassinated the negotiatior.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a what's the point when nothing will satisfy you

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For anyone else then? Do you have anything?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one throwing shit at everyone in the thread in order to make terrible actions by a country look better

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

So what im asking for is unreasonable?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And yet you. take. the. word. of. a. country. systematically. raping. civilians.

Don't pretend you're interested in the truth. You're interested in seeing more dead, raped, and starving kids to fulfill you racial prejudices. Go fuck yourself.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh god people who write sentences. like. this. Need to be taken out behind the barn.

Very colorful language but nothing to back it up. Please don’t assume you know me or what I want. You’re only making yourself look like a whiny child.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’re only making yourself look like a whiny child.

You think you're coming off better?

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago

What’s that supposed to mean? Are you upset that I disagree with you?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Keep stroking your ego. There's a special place in hell for people who think I'd give a shit how uncivil I look when pointing out their genocidal rhetoric is psychopathic.

I'd rather be a whiny child with a conscience than a stuck up brat supporting blood for the sake of empire.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Wow you sound so well spoken. I can’t imagine why anyone wouldn’t listen to you.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find it amusing you think Israel's goal is to rescue the hostages. They really don't give a shit. It's an excuse to cleanse the land for future settlement. Simple as that.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Well if Hamas knows this they could, you know, release the hostages. Israel would lose Casus Belli and all international support.

You’re looking at this wrong.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel has kidnapped far more children if you consider the west bank children held without a judicial process, only a military tribunal without counsel where only the testimony of the military personal who kidnapped the children matters.

So, either way you have to believe kidnappers.

Or do Palestinian children not have the privilege to be 'kidnapped'?

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay so you’ll believe Hamas that the hostages were killed in an Israeli air strike that somehow secretly managed to bomb an underground tunnel?

Amazing.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I'll believe the word of the released hostages that stated the thing that scared them most was Israeli bombing.