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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Translation:

I will send Israel more bombs.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

America was locked into that in the Obama era. Israel gets massive amounts of aid.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is more than enough legal reason to justify stopping sales to Israel but the rules are not applied equally: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240857410/how-do-leahy-laws-apply-to-u-s-support-for-israel

So it seems like they choose not to and I'm not sure if there's a justification for that which isn't fucking atrocious

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And our presidents have been saying "two state solution" for far longer AFAIK. Frankly anybody still pushing that line in 2024 might as well just drop the mask and say what Trump is saying.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And our presidents have been saying “two state solution” for far longer AFAIK. Frankly anybody still pushing that line in 2024 might as well just drop the mask and say what Trump is saying.

man some of this rhetoric really makes you think... "you are literally as bad as a nazi if you think that complete and total end of this long running conflict/war is probably unlikely to go well"

since when was there a problem with a two state solution? Currently the issue is that there really isn't a two state solution due to the strip repeatedly fucking itself in the ass.

Granted israel doesn't get a clean pass here either, with all the settler bullshit they're doing.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The problem isn't the two-state solution on paper, it's the fact that the notion of a two-state solution is a grift. If you believe that any US president has ever actually supported it, then I'm afraid you've been conned. What every US president has actually supported, judging by their actions not their words, is a one state solution, where the state in question is a fascist apartheid state.

Returning to the "two state solution" rhetoric now would mean returning to the previous status quo and never punishing Israel for their crimes.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

maybe? I would have to see some convincing evidence of this outside of just "trust me bro" regardless, this doesn't stop me from believing in a two state solution, because it turns out i have free will and can have my own opinions, so thats cool.

I would think if any US president hadn't supported it, there would've already been a war and this would no longer be a problem, but i guess your concept of support is probably closer to conspiracy so.

also edit: if you judge hitler by his actions and not his words, you'll miss the part where he mentions killing 6 million jews