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Maybe It Should Be Illegal To Instantly Delete A Website's Archives - Aftermath (aftermath.site)
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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not discussing what they do with it, I'm discussing the raw act of ingesting your page.

Cats and bags

To venture into opinion, I think there shouldn't be "every right" to archive your page, for any purposes such as archive or ai or whatever.

Edit but I acknowledge how the open internet works and the futility of trying to control that

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems like a very dangerous, very slippery slope. The first people to abuse this would be the big corporations who want to hide and cover up as much as they possibly can. I think the copyright law framework is a useful lens to view this with which I outlined in my response above.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Totally get what you're saying, but I'm highlighting the mechanical step of a third party having "every right" to scrape or persist your content is in complete contrast to the other points in this thread about rights to be forgotten and so on.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right to be forgotten is specifically for personally identifiable information. And I'm pretty sure it's sound on copyright grounds as long as you don't distribute. And honestly, I don't really see a problem with it.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And if you've made a personal website, say, with a blog of your valuable ideas/art (valuable to you, or anyone, arbitrarily), the ability to erase your site represents forgetting. The whole site may contain your PII throughout.

Any scraping or archiving techniques degrade that right.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

You have a right to be forgotten. Your ideas and the work you create does not.