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An incident which saw two women lock a crying toddler in an aeroplane toilet has sparked an online debate in China on how to manage children in public spaces.

The incident went viral on the Chinese internet after one of the two women, Gou Tingting, posted a video of herself carrying the girl inside the cubicle.

In her post, she presented herself as trying to help others on board, but was swiftly met with backlash.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

This is interesting.

It's fascinating how different people and different cultures view this stuff.

I'll say this: the grandmother doesn't get enough attention in this article. To start with, I simply don't think it's considerate at all to fly with a one year old. I didn't fly with my kid until he was about two and a half, specifically because one year olds have little to no self control, and the air pressure can be very painful. It's just bad for the kid and other passengers. And then this grandmother gives the kid some random person? Does that person have kids of their own? It's odd that the article doesn't say.

I don't think confining the child to the restroom was effective or healthy. Now I don't think it's child abuse... unless perhaps if you're filming it for TikTok. As soon as the woman is performing for likes, her credibility as a responsible care giver evaporates. I think filming it was probably the dumbest part of the story.

Really, "L"s for everyone all around.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

What?!

Flying is not always a choice, sometimes you have to go somewhere. And yeah, sometimes they cry, it sucks. When flying a pair of earplugs should be in your pocket.

Locking a child in a small room is child abuse. And when done by a stranger how is it not holding someone hostage.

[–] poo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You've been forced on a plane against your will?! Flying is 100% a choice (a privilege even to afford it), and it's even more of a choice to bring unruly screaming children/babies that cannot be controlled (not their fault).

Imagine I owned a large Bluetooth speaker that, randomly against my wishes, blasted cacophonous screaming sounds at unpredictable intervals and volumes. I would probably not bring this into a flight because of how embarrassing it would be to disrupt others and ruin their flight. Maybe as the speaker got older in a year or two and could follow instructions and be parented, but not before then.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

I wasn't forced, nice strawman. But families are spread, or a specific Docter is at a specific place... you don't know the reason. And other modes of transport are not always an option.

So yes, kids can be unruly. Plug your ears. Some airlines even have kid free flights. But the parents have just as much right to be there as you and will do anything to keep their kids quiet.. but sometimes that does not work.

Ps: when my wife flew with our 2 year old she had 30 sets of earplugs with her for other people, just in case. But our kid slept the whole flight.

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