Guess it's as good a place as ever to remind everyone who uses Patreon that if you are subscribing through Patreon app on iOS that prices are going up in Sept by 50-60% and if you want to save money go through the actual website. This is Apple charging more not Patreon.

Edit: Apple is forcing Patreon to abide by the 30% Apple store fee this going through Patreon App on iOS will increase costs for end users by at least 30%; easiest solution is subscribing through the website, still being able to access content through the iOS app.

https://www.imore.com/apps/your-next-patreon-sub-might-cost-more-if-youre-paying-with-iphone

This is a common trend actually, don't subscribe to services through Apple iOS apps if you want to save money. And to a lesser extent Android.

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago

The monopolistic shenanigans aside. I hope that companies also learn from this and have functional websites again and stop forcing people to apps. It's gonna a be a win win

[–] Johanno 3 points 2 months ago

The most annoying thing is that in apples terms of service you are not allowed to tell people that you could go to the website for cheaper prices. Or if you don't offer payments through the app store why you are doing it. (because of apples stupid fee)

Android isn't really better, but at least you are allowed to link to websites that function out of the play store payments.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would anyone want to use an app for Patreon, anyway? It's very much a browser experience.

[–] Balooog@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago

I don't disagree on the Patreon app point, but I sub to like 6 podcasts and never visit the app or website. For me it's very much an RSS feed experience via my preferred podcast app.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s also PATREON fucking up. I’ve got a couple people i follow that are moving to Ghost as a hedge.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

ghost?

nm I looked it up myself.

Why aren't more people on ghost? It's a stupid name for what it does, but the $9 a month and keeping the rest is a great deal if you have more than a handful of subscribers.

[–] corbin@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

Ghost managed hosting gets more expensive as you get more subscribers, I don't think Patreon does. You also have to set up the payments processor yourself (usually Stripe), and if you self-host, you need to set up an email service like Mailchimp. Ghost also has much more basic community features than Patreon, and doesn't do per-user RSS feeds, so stuff like subscriber-only podcasts are more difficult.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Since I got downvoted on this - among other things, Patreon is removing the “per post” subscription model. One of the people I follow sent: “This is the second time in as many years that Patreon has screwed up my business”

[+] tyler@programming.dev -6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Apple is not charging 60% more. That is patreon. How this drivel spreads is beyond me. Apple charges 30%. This has been pretty fucking consistent for a decade. Patreon is telling creators to raise their prices because they (patreon) aren’t going to take the loss, they’re going to force it on their userbase. Patreon could easily just eat the 30% or even 15%, but that would cost them profits so they don’t. And then they claim Apple is costing users a 60% price increase. Fucking ridiculous.

[–] soupuos@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

If they're (Patreon) eating 30%, wouldn't they lose money per transaction? I assume they take less than 30% of each subscription currently.

[–] Prime@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are mistaken there. 60% increase means that patreon gets just as much as they get now, because 60/160 is approx 30%.

Also, just eating 30% margin is absolutely a problem and far from easy

[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’m not mistaken. Even Patreon doesn’t claim the apple change will cost 60%. https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/11111747095181-Creator-fees-overview

And 60% of 160 is almost 40%, nice rounding down there to make your numbers sound better. And what the fuck does that have to do with anything anyways??? 30% of 100 is 30%. I’m saying that the creators shouldn’t have to do anything.

Why does Patreon even have a fucking app!? There’s no need for it at all. This ridiculous rise of companies creating useless apps just so they can harvest your info in addition to the info they’re already harvesting from you just signing up.