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There's been some Friday night kernel drama on the Linux kernel mailing list... Linus Torvalds has expressed regrets for merging the Bcachefs file-system and an ensuing back-and-forth between the file-system maintainer.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 95 points 2 weeks ago (62 children)

Can someone say why bcachefs is interesting? Btrfs I can sort of understand. I haven't much kept track of most others.

[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 146 points 2 weeks ago (40 children)

bcachefs is way more flexible than btrfs on multi-device filesystems. You can group storage devices together based on performance/capacity/whatever else, and then do funky things like assigning a group of SSDs as a write-through/write-back cache for a bigger array of HDDs. You can also configure a ton of properties for individual files or directories, including the cache+main storage group, amount of data replicas, compression type, and quite a bit more.

So you could have two files in the same folder, one of them stored compressed on an array of HDDs in RAID10 and the other one stored on a different array of HDDs uncompressed in RAID5 with a write-back SSD cache, and wouldn't have to fiddle around with multiple filesystems and bind mounts - everything can be configured by simply setting xattr values. You could even have a third file which is striped across both groups of HDDs without having to partition them up.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

two files in the same folder, one of them stored compressed on an array of HDDs in RAID10 and the other one stored on a different array [...]

Now that's what I call serious over-engineering.

Who in the world wants to use that?

And does that developer maybe have some spare time? /s

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is actually a feature that enterprise SAN solutions have had for a while, being able choose your level of redundancy & performance at a file level is extremely useful for minimising downtime and not replicating ephemeral data.

Most filesystem features are not for the average user who has their data replicated in a cloud service; they're for businesses where this flexibility saves a lot of money.

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'll also tac on that when you use cloud storage, what do you think your stuff is stored on at the end of the day? Sure as shit not Bcachefs yet, but it's more likely than not on some netapp appliance for the same features that Bcachefs is developing.

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