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[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

"Letting"? How do you stop people from making plans?

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

I don't know if you know this but p25 is already well under way with massive changes being made by the captured judicial branches as well as heritage foundation approved bipartisan bills being passed.

The administration has the entire plan in their hands. They could at least act in some way to put up safeguards so that our democracy isn't instantly dismantled the second a republican president is sworn in. Otherwise it's only a matter of time before it happens regardless.

Edit: All y'all demanding me come up with a solution. I am the one asking for anyone in charge to come to with a counter plan. The republicans have a plan to dismantle the government as soon as they enter power and are currently enacting pieces of their plan under a democrat administration. They will continue doing so regardless unless they are stopped.

WE CANNOT COUNT ON WINNING EVERY ELECTION IN PERPETUITY

As soon as the republicans win it's over. If there is nothing that can be done to stop them THEN WE'VE ALREADY LOST

Edit2: The biden admin might not have congress, but they could at the very least create proposals or laws that could stem the tide and hold on to them until they know they would pass, but as far as I'm aware they haven't done or talked about anything like that

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

“Put up safeguards” isn’t really actionable. What is required is that people VOTE. Democrats have been losing these elections and it’s pretty hard to enact laws when they’re out of power.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Putting up safeguards is literally an action. We have them all over the place. You could put in laws or executive orders that prevent the actions of p25 from being put into place. Maybe even consider expanding the supreme court if that would help. If it's literally a threat to our democracy then it should be treated as such. The federal government stops nefarious schemes all the time, why is this any different?

What do you mean VOTE? THE CURRENT PRESIDENT IS A DEMOCRAT. P25 has been out for ages and what have they done about it?? They could even give us their plan to stop it! But as it stands, yes we might win this election or even the next one, but if they don't do anything about the threat that p25 poses all it takes is one slip up and WHAM we immediately live in a dictatorship. The democrats aren't treating p25 as the very real threat that it is or else they'd be doing something about it other than using it as a guilt trip to make us vote.

I would be able to let out a sigh of relief and a deep anxiety would be lifted if they could give us a plan to stop it, but as it stands all they have is keeping the dems in power which let me tell you we've already lost multiple massive multi decades long precedent while under the biden administration and not a word on how we're going to get it back. Somehow the republicans win whether they're in power or not but not for the democrats oh no we get nothing

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

You have multiple levels of government dude

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Putting in laws" requires that Congress (Republicans aren't about to get on board here) get things passed. Things like 'expanding the court' are what really would drive Republican voters to the polls, which is why they haven't done that. The President has less power than you seem to be giving them credit for. Do you think that Biden should just go slap a pair of cuffs on Trump? Trump would win in a landslide if that happened. The Democrats have certainly been asleep at the wheel for a while, and it's going to take a long time to get P25 out of the government for sure. There are no quick fixes.

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