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The Israeli military has ordered new forced evacuations in parts of central Gaza, signaling the expansion of ground operations and the latest displacement of Palestinians, many of whom have already been displaced multiple times over the course of Israel’s war on the territory. At least 50 Palestinians have been killed in the last 24 hours, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza, pushing the official death toll past 40,200.

Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken ended his ninth visit to the Middle East since October without securing any breakthrough for a ceasefire deal. In Chicago, where Democrats are gathered for the DNC, Gaza has been mentioned only in passing from the main stage of the convention. The party’s official platform adopted this week does not call for an arms embargo on Israel and reasserts unwavering U.S. support for Israel.

“There’s been an almost competition between Democrats and Republicans on 'how much can we show Israel that we support them and that we have their back?'” says human rights lawyer Zaha Hassan, a fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and previously the senior legal adviser to the Palestinian negotiating team during Palestine’s bid for U.N. membership. “Why should Israel ever compromise its positions if they know that by holding out, they’ll get more goodies from the U.S.?”

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know the answer, but I'd imagine geopolitical ramifications are a big part, and that it's more complicated that us civilians without top secret clearance know. Maybe I'm wrong and it's as easy as saying no, but I doubt it. I'd like if they did though.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t buy the whole deep state idea, but I suppose anything is possible. I enjoy a good conspiracy shitpost now & then. This issue feels much more Occam’s razor than 4-D chess. I mean with 40000 already counted dead it’s pretty disgusting to have to try to justify. You’re just creating more radicalized people with these actions.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not trying to suggest there's some deep state fuckery at play. I'm just saying that I think the situation is not black and white and there are more pieces to the puzzle than we are privy to.

Again, I would love if we stopped supplying weapons. I left my last job in manufacturing partly because we were making parts that were going into bombs that were ending up in Israel. That's not a fun thing to have on your conscience all of the time.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is plenty of gray area in anything. This seems pretty cut & dry. This is has not been self defense, it has been nothing but escalation. The campaign to justify it rings hollow.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I understand and agree, but there are a lot of national secrets traded between Israel and the US amongst probably countless other national interests that we are unaware about that may be important to consider. If the cutting of "defense" support somehow compromises national security, then it might be less bad to begrudgingly supply. I'm not saying that's the case, but that's a plausible argument given the scale of geopolitics.