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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isreal was indiscriminately bombing and taking land before October 7th, all they are just more active now. The violence will only stop if Isreal gives back all the land and gives Palestinians full autonomy. Hamas are murderous assholes, but they weren't created in a vacuum. In fact Hamas is directly supported and funded by the IDF so the only true victims in this conflict are the Palestinians civilians and the non zionest Israelis

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the only thing I disagree with in your statement:

The violence will only stop if Isreal gives back all the land and gives Palestinians full autonomy

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh with no explanation as to why you think that?

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For a non-exhaustive list of the ways the violence can end see my previous comments above, or consider peace can be achieved through victory as well.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Victory? Like the extermination of all Palestinian people? Cuz that's the only way the IDF will consider victory

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That, or Hamas exterminates Israel.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not an true option. You can never exterminate a group of people without starting ww3

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So Palestinians aren't being genocided, or we're in WW3?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They are being genocided. But if history has taught us anything is impossible to kill everyone. Doesn't mean it's still not genicidal.