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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Freedom of speech protects you from the government, who could otherwise publicly execute you for speaking out against them.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

So just semi-public executions then :)
The ones lucky to get mentioned once in the 24h news cycle.

Also "freedom of speech" should protect you from all.

Its just that the specific brand of "freedom of speech™" you are probably referring to is limited by your personal power.
Ie megacorps and the rich have freedom of speech bcs its costs them virtually nothing. But citizens don't. Citizens get gag orders or sued to oblivion & ruined lives (regardless of the court outcome). I'd say that that is a very strong deterrent that in practice limits your meaningless theoretical rights.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Also "freedom of speech" should protect you from all.

No. Absolutely not. This is why slander and libel exist.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just like with gov - freedom of speech isn't absolute (thats why treason laws exist & have the highest of punishments).

Everyone can have consequences.
But how the tools are set and effective to provide those freedoms equally is the real issue.

Eg slander acoustics are used all the time for non-slander speech, just as a tool to limit that ones speech and even as a deterrent to others.
And I would say the wealthy disproportionately accuse of slander the not-so-wealthy.

Thats why I mention gag orders & lives ruined just by the procedures/tools.

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