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GNOME June 2024: C'mon you can do better (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by TCB13@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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New GNOME dialog on the right:

Apple's dialog:

They say GNOME isn't a copy of macOS but with time it has been getting really close. I don't think this is a bad thing however they should just admit it and then put some real effort into cloning macOS instead of the crap they're making right now.

Here's the thing: Apple's design you'll find that they carefully included an extra margin between the "Don't Save" and "Cancel" buttons. This avoid accidental clicks on the wrong button so that people don't lose their work when they just want to click "Cancel".

So much for the GNOME, vision and their expert usability team :P

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I get it that you hate this design

I don't hate it, it looks better than what was there before, no doubts there, but at the same time they could've just made it better.

All the literature on action buttons with dangerous effects tells you to add margins, accents and shades. Any design undergraduate should be aware of this, however the GNOME team totally missed it.

It’s going to be a good update with accent color support (I won’t fight about it ok?)

It's funny that you mention that because...

In macOS, you can specify an accent color to customize the appearance of your app’s buttons, selection highlighting, and sidebar glyphs. The system applies your accent color when the current value in General > Accent color preferences is multicolor. https://support.apple.com/en-mt/guide/mac-help/mh15217/mac

I'm totally okay with "being inspired" (cloning) macOS, it should be viewed as good thing because Apple does spend a lot in UX research however lets make thing properly.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't hate it, it looks better than what was there before, no doubts there, but at the same time they could've just made it better.

How? Improving something like this is hard. Do you have any proposals?

All the literature on action buttons with dangerous effects tells you to add margins, accents and shades. Any design undergraduate should be aware of this, however the GNOME team totally missed it.

I'm afraid to tell you that in 2024 nobody cares about that. "Shape following feeling" in MD is the best example I can think of. Now aesthetics is preferred to make people buy (or use for free in this case) the product. People are not tech savvy. They want good looks and GNOME nailed it imo. It's stunning. They even got me but I do care about aesthetics unfortunately. I'm a spoilt mass consumer. Eject me if you will.

accent color

Accent color taboo. Let's not talk about accent color.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How? Improving something like this is hard. Do you have any proposals?

I've submitted a fair share of UX in-depth analysis with examples and links to literature on the GNOME team blog and they tend to ignore / comment dismissingly and then remove my comments after a few weeks.

Accent color taboo. Let’s not talk about accent color.

Ahahaha

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Judging from your post and replies, you look very aggressive, rude and demanding so no wonder the devs deleted your comments.

[–] bitfucker@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, he could also just be fed up after a long time being ignored for what he thinks is quite an important design decision.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

May be but some of this user's post history is a bit questionable.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

In-depth analysis ≠ random ramblings on lemmy.