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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 26 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Here's a really good rule of thumb: don't shoot someone that you feel threatened by until they break into your house. As long as they are outside--and not shooting at you through the door--you are not in imminent danger. This is a situation where you can readily call the cops and wait. If the neighbor had kicked the door in and come inside, then we'd be looking at a legitimate self-defense claim. But you will almost never get to claim self-defense if you're shooting through a closed exterior door in your home at someone outside of your home.

If you're going to carry for self-defense, the most important thing you can learn is de-escalation, so that you don't murder someone.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Even if you are in imminent danger, maybe don’t shoot through a door to the outside? Responsible gun owners should be aware of the target and what’s beyond it. That’s really hard to do if there’s a door between you. She could have missed the person pounding the door and hit a kid or something.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My point is that it's not imminent danger when there's a hard barrier between you and them.

But yes, unlike cops, normal people are responsible for every single bullet that leaves their gun, regardless of their intentions.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, not unless you’re pretty sure you’re the only bluefor and the building is swarming with opfor… at that point I would shoot through a door. But pretty much only then

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Opfor" and "bluefor" isn't a thing outside of military operations, and the military has entirely different rules of engagement than civilians do. I'm pretty sure that even cops intentionally firing blindly through a door are risking getting charged with murder.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

That was the point of my post

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