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[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The holocaust is happening again at the hands of the first victims?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tale as old as time.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What exactly do you mean by "first victims"?

Asking, because my paternal ancestors happen to be Armenian from Khodorchur of Dayq province.

But that's the cause only of my irritation, while the weird feeling from reading your comment is because mass murders of whole peoples are not anything new in human history. It's just that Germany lost so conclusively in WWII that the winning powers decided to make it a crime - when judging Germany. Not Belgium, not UK, not France, not USA and USSR, of course, because these all had crimes of that kind on their sufficiently recent record.

One can speculate that Jewish holocaust made Europeans feel bad because it happened to rather European people. Or because it was committed by the losing side.

Or maybe, as with Baudrillard's simulacra, all Westerners care is what's portrayed as the evil of the day and the good of the day in their media. It's a kind of entertainment, and they don't care what the world really is.

all of those are a bit true. laws are for enforcing power, not justice, not morality. always, every time. the powerful will always have a need to kill if they want to remain powerful, and don't love having their hands tied (except in private; they're all subs, it's so weird).

but yes, until jews were white, nobody gave toooo terribly many shits.

and yeah, most people just care about simple bullshit narratives. that's what liberalism and fascism are.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's called "dibs"

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

"The holocaust" is unfortunate phrasing. "The" holocaust was not the first or only since.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

queer people?

because the first victims of the holocaust were queer people. stop writing us out of your fucking history for the sake of zionist propaganda.

[–] FatherGascown@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love how you all make a point of playing the victim and making it all about you when you are not even part of the discourse. Queers are the new vegans, apparently.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

google "nazi book burning" find the photo you think of when you hear/read that phrase, then look at the context for that photo, what books were being burned, where, and why. please don't reply until you have.

[–] FatherGascown@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unlike your stupid country, we study history. You were not the FIRST victims, you were among them. Doesn't mean you can make it all about you. My god that's why some people can't stand your fucking politicised community.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

wow, a zionist AND a homophobe. I'm... what's the name for a feeling that means the opposite of shocked but is far far more unpleasant?