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How is this different from holocaust except being even more chaotic and cruel?
Well for one metric: the nazi's killed 300 times as many civilians per day. Most of them systematically shipped off to extermination camps
Gaza is comparable to a large concentration camp not the entire Holocaust.
During the majority of the Holocaust it looked like Gaza. Only near its end were the exterminion camps in full force.
Are you saying Israel is shipping people into Gaza to kill them?
Last I heard they were very happy to see people move out through the south, but Egypt was asking 5k per person... Bit different from the nazi's stopping jews from escaping in WW2
The last I read is that, the burn their villages, occupied their homes, refuse they comeback, but a wall around them, pervent anything from coming in or going out.. and now bombing them.
While those who didn't go to Gaza are: getting force out of their home, displaced, kidnapped and put in prison, getting tortured and raped.
Yes you cannot compare the two...
Yes. Those Palestinians used to live over all of Palestine until they were ethnically cleansed.
Many who suffered the Nakba are now confined in the Gaza concentration camp.
I think you should go do some research into what the real concentration camps were
Also, why do you think Egypt charges so little to let them out?
Palestinians aren't treated as human under Apartheid. Israel literally jails children without trial or with a forced confession, and tortures them. Palestinians are jailed without charge, forced into false confessions, routinely tortured, raped, denied medical attention, and yes killed.
Palestinians denied civil rights (HRW) including Military Court (B'TSelem)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel (wiki)
Children are jailed and abused in Israeli prisons (Save The Children)
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations (B'TSelem)
Thousands of Palestinians are held without charge under Israeli detention policy (NPR)
Urgently investigate inhumane treatment and enforced disappearance of Palestinians detainees from Gaza (Amnesty)
Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests (Amnesty)
At the height of the holocaust, nazi's and their collaborators killed 500.000 jews per month
How do you think the Egyptians decided on the price to let people out of Gaza?
I'm not comparing the treatment to death camps, I'm comparing it to concentration camps.
The mass executions of prisoners by the Nazis ramped up in the last few years. Is your argument that we need to wait until the death rate is comparable in the Palestinian Occupied Territories? Because my argument is to stop it now
If you want to go for a direct comparison with Nazi Germany, then you'd want to look at the Jewish prisoners in the Warsaw Ghettos.
What is the point in trying to rank genocides? The only useful part of doing a comparison is to recognize how dehumanization occurs, and how to recognize a genocide early in order to prevent as many deaths as possible.
There was nothing special about holocaust...
Regimes and armies exterminating people is essentially standard behavior throughout history. The fact that Jews were able to turn ww2 atrocities into specifically them issue at expense of other victims of fascism is how we ended enabling the state of Israel and their genocide in Palestine.
Note that Israeli genocide campaign predates ww2, they started this bullshit in early 20th century. Ww2 and Holocaust propaganda enabled them to expedite the process by generations.