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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whats your favorite color. Blue. Why is it your favorite. Because I find it pretty. yeah but why do you find it pretty..... My answers are the why but you just ask why again.

It does reveal a lot that you'd compare how you decide your political opinions to how you pick your favorite color, vibes and aesthetics over logic.

So much of what you say seems to be lets just not call it capitalism but I can tell there are small parts which I have already pointed out I want.

You can pick houses and buy them in Socialism, just like people did in Feudalism before Capitalism.

but its a guess because you keep on saying all the earmarks of capitalism is not capitalism and then also making remarks confirming this like my exchange examples.

The earmarks of Capitalism are individual owners of the Means of Production competing in markets to sell commodities made by wage labor for profit. Markets themselves do not need Capitalism, exchange isn't unique to Capitalism.

I have no idea what you see as mechanical evidence as I did not see that in our exchange.

You said you understood the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall, is that not actually true?

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

strike1 on your first reply. I certainly do not want to live like a typical person under feudalism and far prefer capitalism. You need to bring down to exactly what you think makes up capitalism based on "The earmarks of Capitalism are individual owners of the Means of Production competing in markets to sell commodities made by wage labor for profit. Markets themselves do not need Capitalism, exchange isn't unique to Capitalism." and your other things it seems like profit. I exchange things for profit now and do not see not doing that. I did a ctrl f and the only time I see "Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall" is from your comments.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

strike1 on your first reply. I certainly do not want to live like a typical person under feudalism and far prefer capitalism.

But why? What are your goals? What makes a system good, or bad? I can tell you exactly what issues Capitalism has and how Socialism fixes them.

You need to bring down to exactly what you think makes up capitalism based on "The earmarks of Capitalism are individual owners of the Means of Production competing in markets to sell commodities made by wage labor for profit. Markets themselves do not need Capitalism, exchange isn't unique to Capitalism." and your other things it seems like profit.

You quoted exactly what makes up Capitalism. Is there something you wish for me to elaborate on?

I exchange things for profit now and do not see not doing that.

Markets, not Capitalism. Unless you own a factory and sell what your workers make, of course.

I did a ctrl f and the only time I see "Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall" is from your comments.

So then you were talking past me. I already explained it, but if you want me to do it again I can.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I did not read this past the part where dismissed my issue with your part1 of "It does reveal a lot that you'd compare how you decide your political opinions to how you pick your favorite color, vibes and aesthetics over logic." im done

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Gotcha, glad we could establish that you were never interested in having a conversation in the first place.