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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As a fossil extender solar PV and wind is definitely worth it. It is empirically possible to power some sort of society indefinitely with renewable power alone, like for instance Japan during the Edo period, or to do slightly better.

Just not this sort of society. And almost nobody is ready to discuss what that implies.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

We don't seem to be communicating well.