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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 93 points 4 weeks ago (32 children)

I mean there is a fucking valley between now and 2020.

First, he's not the President. That gave him an overwhelming advantage in trying to steal that election. He held power.

Second, we're looking out for it this time. And its not like Trump is actually off the hook for the last go at it either.

So yes, take heed and pay attention. But also, the difficulty of what he frankly almost go away with the first time (if he would have been able to get Pence to play ball; if the inssurectionists would have strung Pelosi up on a gallows, where might we be?). The difficulty of stealing an election while not in power and while we're looking for it. OF course he's going to claim it was stolen. But fuck him. We don't have to regard his claims.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

What I expect to happen is this:

  • Donald will double down on the only strategy he knows, and will chew his way through a series of increasingly brief campaign managers whilehe tunes out while he leans into personality attacks and conspiracy theories, galvanizing his MAGA core and alienating an increasing share of Republicans

  • He will continue to chase moderates towards Kamala, expanding into the right, eventually even to include a small handful of politically savvy MAGA types compelled to denounce him to save face

  • Election night is a drubbing in the popular vote with record turnout and a similar map to 2020 with maybe even one or two new blue states

  • Donald will trot out a litany of accusations of interference and refuse to concede, his base will further contract

  • MAGA protests will quickly turn violent and Donald's refusal to denounce his few remaining supporters will pretty much sever MAGA from what's left of Republicans

  • a few MAGA election officials delay certifying anywhere possible, exhausting all legal and some illegal means of avoiding certification

  • At least one or two of these delays will result in a standoff between county and state government or even state and federal

  • All of this likely set against a backdrop of sporadic but increasing violence and rioting by the remaining hardest of the hard core MAGA, with right wing militias playing a large role and even intervening on behalf of at least one of the aforementioned standoffs at one point or another

I'd be curious which of those elements you find to be the most far fetched. I know in their totality they sound like a crazed paranoid rant, but given our recent history, and the insane trajectory we are on, this doesn't really seem like that big of a stretch to me.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

yep this is bang on. they have been election deniers and pro-revolution for 4 years. they have no faith in the US democratic system any more and will do anything to get power

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