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Independent presidential candidate Robert F Kennedy Jr does not meet the legal requirement of a New York resident and therefore cannot be on the state's election ballot, a judge has ruled.

Kennedy's claim of a New York address as his "place of residence" on nominating petitions was a "false statement", said Judge Christina Ryba.

“Given the size and appearance of the spare bedroom as shown in the photographs admitted into evidence, the Court finds Kennedy’s testimony that he may return to that bedroom to reside with his wife, family members, multiple pets, and all of his personal belongings to be highly improbable, if not preposterous,” the judge wrote.

As a result, the petitions were considered invalid. Mr Kennedy has rejected the judge's ruling and vows to appeal.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why doesn’t he just claim residence where he actually lives?

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That won't get him on the ballots he wants to siphon votes from, which is the entire purpose of his campaign.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

i still don't get it. it is not like you need to reside in NY to be able to appear in the NY presidential ballot

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's that he lied on his forms about his residence. These people are fucked up. No idea why he needed to lie about living in NY, but when you fill out these kinds of forms, you're not allowed to fuck around, rightly.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

oh, i understand why he was disqualified. but like you, it doesn't make any sense as to why he would lie. i guess you can trust a brain worm to fill a form accurately?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it doesn't make any sense as to why he would lie

It seems that some people just can't help themselves...

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves"

US Constitution Amendment 12

The presidential and vice presidential candidates that the electors vote for cannot be from the same state.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I asked the same question in another thread, answer is "legacy election rules that are silly in today's context":

https://lemmy.world/comment/11736790

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

it is not like you need to reside in NY to be able to appear in the NY presidential ballot

No, but you do need to fill in the application forms accurately and honestly.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Would running for president get him on all the ballots?

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago

Nope, most states require either a certain percentage/number of registered voters for a party or a state-wide petition to get onto the ballot. The only 3rd party on all 50 states' ballot is the Libertarian party. The Green party is a distant 4th place, as they often need to regather signatures and new petitions every 2-4 years.

If a new party was formed for 2028, it might get enough ground in one state, not any to really sway the balance of the Electoral College.

[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which ballots are those? You think RFK has any chance of flipping California?? (Or New York for that matter?)

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He has absolutely no shot of winning any electoral votes or even a state's popular vote. RFK is not a serious candidate. He's a crazy person who happens to have a well known name that others are using to try and spoil an election.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Yes, that's the point.

If he falsified his permanent residence so that he could side step a (admittedly stupid) rule that state electors votes don't count if both the president and vice president candidates are from their state, then he falsified his application for nothing, since he has no chance of winning CA in the first place.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We said the same thing about Trump 8 years ago...

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His VP is also from California, so California electors can’t choose them.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A President and Vice-President can't both be from California?

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s from the 12th amendment. A state elector must vote for at least one candidate from a state other than their own. So electors from Nevada could place both their Presidential and Vice Presidential electoral votes with an all-California ticket but California electors may not. There was talk of Kamala picking Newsom for VP but she’d have to change her residency for that to happen. Everyone would know that would be BS and possibly cost her California’s electoral votes or her candidacy in the second state, so she picked Walz instead (not the only reason but you get the idea). Kennedy got caught pulling a fast one so here we are.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

that's fucking wild. I'd never heard of that aspect of the college

[–] sockpuppet5@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He can't put anywhere else, because his legal residence is in New York.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

But he lives in California.

If you don't actually reside at your legal residence, it's invalid. It's like moving to a new house and not updating your driver's license. You don't get to claim that you live at your old house - your license just becomes invalid until you fix it.