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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not so sure training to be a cop has any impact on whether your parents were married 18+ years before.

The police aren't going anywhere. The path you described means no one who wants to better the system should join.. so it will always just be people who want to abuse power. Am I reading your proposal wrong? We should workshop this.

Edit: re-read what I wrote and realized it sounded dickish instead of constructive. Sorry about that, my dumb lump of a brain thought it sounded a lot different when I was writing it.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the system cannot be improved 'from the inside', 'reform from within' has not worked in the past four hundred years of constant trying, when institutional culture was far less entrenched.

what has changed, that it would magically work now? that the fucking mythical good-cop king under the mountain will return and save us all by making the often literal neo nazi death squads whose soul reason for existing is the maintenance of hierarchal violence and wealth/class disparity be nice and cool and prosocial?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Last 400 years what has changed? A lot. I'm not saying the police are going to change anytime soon, but women have only had the ability to vote for 25% of that. That was a big change. The end of legalized slavery outside of incarceration hasn't been around that long either... Kinda big one might say. Before I die I hope to see large improvements in rehabilitation during incarceration as efforts are growing world wide.

We can live with hope and keep pushing towards a better life for people, or we can cower in fear and think nothing will ever change. Hell, 20 years ago a universal healthcare system in the U.S. would have been thought impossible to ever occur, now I think that it could happen in the next 20 years if people get out and vote for it.

For every inch we take there is always backlash and sometimes we lose ground. We just need to hope we don't lose decades, if not a 250 years come this election.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

okay but, like, specifically, this specific question:

what has changed, that it would magically work now? that the fucking mythical good-cop king under the mountain will return and save us all by making the often literal neo nazi death squads whose soul reason for existing is the maintenance of hierarchal violence and wealth/class disparity be nice and cool and prosocial?

what specific changes have happened? what did the police 'reforms' after 2020 fix? have the rates of innocent people gunned down in the streets in the woods in their homes gone down in the past four years? what about the time before that? or before that? or before that? your proposal has failed, constantly, invariable, without one exception, since before the invention of the steam engine. it's not even stupidity anymore; it's insanity.

stop cowering. stop restricting your horizon of action to the things your oppressors tell you you're allowed to do. look for the gaps. look the the real solutions. try playing a non-pacifist run of 'wolfenstein', see if you do any better.