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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Conservatives are the problem, the ultra rich conservstives exacerbate the problem.

Note that the opposite of ultra rich conservatives is Jimmy Carter who still built wealth but didn't go for ultra wealth because he actually cares about people. The ultra wealthy are a symptom.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't put these 2 in the conservative category, they are fascist groupies. They were both born into wealth, and then did everything possible to constantly grow their wealth while exploiting labor and everyone around them. They both have a real disdain for rules/laws for them, but love to try and use the legal system against those they see as an enemy.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They both have a real disdain for rules/laws for them, but love to try and use the legal system against those they see as an enemy.

So, conservatives. Modern conservatives are fascists, it is the same thing.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Conservatism is the theoretical voice of this animus against the agency of the subordinate classes. It provides the most consistent and profound argument as to why the lower orders should not be allowed to exercise their independent will, why they should not be allowed to govern themselves or the polity. Submission is their first duty, and agency the prerogative of the elite.

The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Donald Trump

Even if they weren't straight-up fascist in the past (highly debatable), conservatism is a blight on liberty. The only potential difference is degree, not kind.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you wanted to separate it out then fascists are those with power and “conservativism” is the ideology they peddle to the working class to make what they’re doing seem ok.

They’re the same thing, really.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Conservatives are simply fascists with masks on.