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"Why do people think conservatives hate the poor?"
You think paying your own way is hating the poor?
I think the government failing to address poverty is a form of hate for the poor. But good attempt to put words in my mouth.
It isn't the government's job to address poverty. It's your job.
Why?
That is part of being an adult. Taking care of yourself and your obligations.
So why is it my obligation to address poverty instead of the governments?
You don't think an adult should be responsible for their actions? /
Quit trying to put words in my mouth.
I don't have children, I'm not in poverty. I have not caused others to be in poverty. So how is it my obligation to solve U.S. poverty instead of the governments?
It isn't the job of the governments.
So why did you say it is my job?
Probably because he expected you to not be a dick about interpreting what he said
I said it the job of the people to take care of themselves. You seem to be passionate about this. Out your money were your mouth is and donate
I’ll tell you something that’s a more powerful indication of hating the poor: Colorado’s new anti-plastic bags law.
The only stores prohibited from using them are large chains. Any business with three or fewer retail locations gets to use disposable plastic bags.
Just not the big stores, like Safeway or King Soopers or Target. The little boutique shops that sell tea and spices and homemade soap to rich people, they get to use all the disposable plastic bags they want.
But people without cars, people who talk a mile to the grocery store, or take the bus to the grocery store, they’re gonna have to carry their reusable bags with them all day, OR buy new reusable bags each time they, OR take their chances on a long journey with paper bags.
See, the problem is these rich legislators don’t have a decent conception of what it means to “carry some groceries”. They think carrying groceries means carrying them into the house from their car. I would wager the majority of those legislators don’t even have to carry them in from outside, just in from the garage.
This is the sort of horseshit that tells me leftists hate the poor. I’m poor, and I know for a fact they value the environment over my own well-being.
And I resent that. Grocery shopping just got harder for me. It got a little harder for everyone, but not nearly as much harder for a person with a car as for a person without a car.
When the rich take on a little burden for the planet, the poor take on a much larger burden.
You just told me no child in the U.S. goes hungry. So I don't buy this act you're putting on.
Children aren’t poor. Children have parents that are poor. Children do not have boot straps to pull on to hover about the room. A child’s future prospects depend on their education and nutrition. Children do not have the agency required to save themselves from hunger.
You are advocating rigging the game against children to keep the poors down. Society benefits from the investment put into its children, so society should foot the bill. Its not only the ethical decision, it also pays dividends if you look farther then 4 years ahead.