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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know Israel routinely kills Palestinians regardless of this conflict or not. They were dying before and will die after as long as Israel is around.

Maybe don’t sacrifice them to keep the human right abuse and genocidal status quo?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yet again- what is the solution to save lives? Because I keep hearing people suggesting that Israel will just kill everyone and, despite what someone else said, asking Israel to stop is not going to work.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Should Ukraine surrender to Russia because it would save lives by ending the war?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When did I say anything about surrendering?

Since when is a negotiated ceasefire a surrender?

[–] roboto 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s what most Palestinians want and what even Hamas agreed to no? I mean Hamas even agreed to disarm if there’s a two state solution. Not that it would be good for Palestinians to be ruled by Hamas and not that I trust that the armed fractions would just be like „um yeah ok I guess this is it“.

But anyway I have no answers to how to achieve a ceasefire since the Israelis are actively blocking any ceasefire currently and any path to Palestinian sovereignty ever since. I think that’s where OP is coming from.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

What I'm saying is that if they have nothing to negotiate with, i.e. no hostages, there will be even less of a chance to stop this.