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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

No, we are not. Sorry but protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here. Whether you agree or not. Sorry.

[–] lembas@lemm.ee 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did you read the article?

No, we are not.

The article describes multiple queer activists and groups supporting BDS as a component of Pride.

protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here

The article also describes the direct link between BDS and Pride.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Who cares what an article says?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 months ago

me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action

solidarity

in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism.

[–] lembas@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because I am an old man and I know what it took to get to where we are today. And watching other unrelated “movements “ try to latch onto gay pride as something to do with it is something quite disingenuous and sickening really.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial.

the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I hope you can learn from someone also.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 months ago

solidarity? what's that?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Goddamnit Patrick, transgender is not a noun.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually, we did get ours and it was a hell of a lot of work. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights…just getting started. If that means fuck you because I don’t equate a war between Israel and Palestine as the same thing, then yes, “fuck you, Trevor”.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

war between Israel and Palestine

Not a war. It's a genocide, and it's Israel that is perpetrating it.

Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights...just getting started

Cool. And you'll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like "fuck you, I got mine" as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they're not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it's okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that's none of your concern, I'm sure.

The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago