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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tbh I like Gecko but I hate the Mozilla company's recent statements.

[–] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Please elaborate or point me in the direction

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Mass Layoffs

AI Focus

End of Support status for FireFox on windows older than Windows 10

Removal of many settings such as browser.privateWindowSeparation.enabled

It's a company. Mozilla Foundation has nonprofit status but the Subsidiary Mozilla Corporation is for-profit.

TBH I'm biased af because I just liked it better before all the recent updates.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Of these, the EoS for pre-Win10 is probably a good thing. Everything older has been EoL from MS and shouldn't be exposed to the Internet anyway. And if you're concerned about an old, air gapped system, what does it matter? Use that old version of FF right alongside the ancient Windows?

But yeah, they should just fuck off with the AI bs.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why you are about layoffs. They are cutting useless bloat. (VR didn't pan out go figure) Also Windows 7 isn't supported by Microsoft so it doesn't make sense to support it. It isn't even receiving security patches.

From a profitability perspective I think there is lots of potential in privacy tech. The problem is that they keep creating and then discontinuing random stuff.

I don't like Mozilla but the stuff you listed doesn't seem like the problem to me.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

laying off the servo staff at least was a mistake

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Servo has been integrated into Firefox. The old engine has been partially replaced that's why Firefox is fast now. Servo is now the old term for Gecko.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Servo is not the old name for Gecko. Gecko existed long before Servo was started and Servo continues to be developed independently of Mozilla. It was a research project to develop a web rendering engine in Rust taking advantage of parallelization. The parallelization stuff mostly made it through the Quantum project several years ago, which did indeed help performance. That's about it. As of right now, Gecko's code base 55.4% C++, 22.6% JavaScript, 4.5% C, 4.3% Kotlin and a mere 3.8% Rust. If Servo had indeed been integrated into Firefox, over half of this would be Rust. 53.2%, if the current Servo repository is anything to go by.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I personally think it is silly to try to keep alive. If it was good Mozilla would've used it more. You can have your own take though

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 3 months ago

So you believe that Mozilla was just "cutting useless bloat" on the sole basis that "If it was good Mozilla would’ve used it more"? Yes, I think I will stick with my own take. They dropped it because making web engines is expensive and they no longer wanted to invest in making a new one in Rust. It was good, that's the entire reason people are complaining.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they can't handle having thousands of extra employees then they shouldn't have hired them.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

You are completely right

However reality is hard to predict

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This is the only Mozilla mistake I'm aware of:

https://lemmy.world/post/16458081