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[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

I'm so fucking done with maps lumping Central Europe into Eastern Europe. Like you wanna tell me that Austria, Greece, Finland are somehow not eastern but Czechia is. Or how sometimes the Baltics are not eastern but Hungary is.

In this thread: westerners telling me what I should think. Well gee, next time maybe tone down the imperialism a bit.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Finland and baltics are northern Europe, not eastern.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet few people would argue the same of Murmansk, mostly north of Helsinki. We really need to consider history here, as well. Specifically which side of the iron curtain they were on.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you might be mixing different things here, because it's fucked up shit

Northern Europe: British isles, Scandinavia, Finland, Baltics

Nordics: Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Greenland, Iceland, Faraoe islands

Scandinavia: Sweden, Norway, Denmark

Scandinavian peninsula: Sweden, Norway, North-western Finland

Fennoscandia: Finland, Sweden, Norway, Murmansk oblast, parts of Karelia and Leningrad oblasts

And there's more stupid definitions for differently divided areas because fuck you

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, well sure. If you allow them to overlap there's no reason you can't be in both Northern and Eastern Europe.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

Perhaps some kind of North-East.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Typical Europeans: colonizing this post about Africa to make it about themselves instead. \s

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, I am fucking done with maps portraying Europe as a continent. It is called Eurasia, you just like feeling extra special but geographically you are not 🤪

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

Based

Show me your continental plate, "Europe"

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

I've never heard anyone claim the Baltics are not Eastern Europe. Then again, I'm on a different continent.

As for the rest, it's all down to which side they were on/put in during the Cold War.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Austria is literally lumped into "Eastern Europe" on this map lol

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it's not. That's why it has its own specific label...

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't understand - Greece, EE and Austria are all clearly overlaid in top of each other in the same space. It makes no sense

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

They labelled those parts of the connected landmass with those separate labels so people wouldn't complain that some parts didn't belong to the culturally arbitrary grouping.

The point of the map is to demonstrate that Africa is larger than all of those geopolitically relevant areas, and those connected bits fit into the space so it was included. Don't think too much about it.

[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

that's pretty angry

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eastern Europe is not real

Not in, like, the "there's nothing there" way, but in the "there's no substantive economic, social or geographic reasons to treat it as a cohesive region" way

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I mean there is, its the old Soviet block countries, its just not really relevant anymore.