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[–] xor@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a lot of Israelis are very much against what has been happening in Palestine…
(also why “zionist” is a bad word to call pro-genocidal people)

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nothing excuses Zionism even if some opposes the actions of their government

[–] xor@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Zionism is the quest for a homeland for the Jewish people… many people chose Argentina, many chose Ethiopia… Israel was created by the Allied Forces after world war two… zionism has nothing to do with recreating Israel or hurting Palestinians….

stop using words you don’t understand… blaming “zionists” is like blaming jews… it’s racist.
Israel is committing these crimes against humanity. Not jews, not zionists… it’s Israel

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Notice how each of those countries you said Zionists chose instead of Palestine were already, you know, countries. Where people live. Zionism is a settler colonial movement that displaces people wherever you decide it should be. Colonizers do not deserve sympathy or support. I agree that the actions of Israel should not be associated with the Jewish people, but they most certainly are the actions of Zionists, of colonizers. No one gets to Minecraft a homeland out of thin air. You don't just pop up an ethno-state on any habitable location on earth without removing those who already live there.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We agree on the essence. I am not going to argue over semantics and definitions. People have a right to self determination but not settler colonialism, we agree on that but disagree on the definition of Zionism. I go with the writings of Jabotinsky and Herzl.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 months ago

You agree on the definition, you're just not ignoring that people already lived there like he is.