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[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Seems unlikely they'd do that, perhaps the angle you took might have triggered them. They tend to know their history and cite well, and get lied about a lot, so they're suspicious of people who might get details wrong and probably take them for trolls.

their savior Karl M

Obviously I can't fairly judge what you wrote but you are at the very least not left wing right?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As someone who has actually studied political science, they absolutely do not know their history well lmao. They are (shitty) Orthodox Marxists and react quite strongly to being shown anything outside of that 150 year old bubble.

They know a few core historical anecdotes that MLs cling to. But their knowledge breaks down extremely quickly when you try to reduce political science and statecraft to academic first principles, even when those principles intersect strongly with their ML orthodoxy.

They are campists. They form their philosophy around relitigating cold war drama more than anything to do with actual socialism.

[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What would you have them read to remedy this?

And to take a current event as a litmus test since I don't know you or your bias, do you condemn Israel's racism, zionist ideology and their war crimes etc?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So many things. But I'd start with The Ethics of Ambiguity to temper the autocratic revolution fetish.

[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

(I edited my comment apparently shortly after you replied btw).

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you believe I owe you a litmus test.

There is no right answer to the Israel situation, other than secular unification. You will not find me mounting a vocal defense of any theocracy or ethnostate.

[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Well, you're not claiming to the arbiter of truth here are you? Hence you have a bias, and as a layman I'd benefit from knowing it.

I appreciate the answer regardless.

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm very left wing. So left wing that I recognize that the USSR was a capitalist authoritarian state with central wealth distribution. Even Marxists can mistake the map for the territory. Marx isn't Christ and Das Kapital isn't a bible, but don't tell them.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You can view lemmygrad and hexbear's modlog. They ban anything they consider "liberal"