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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's none of your business what's between their legs or in their chromosomes. This wouldn't even be a question for anyone who wasn't an athlete.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes because outside of athletics it doesn't really matter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which do you think would be more likely to discourage girls and women from participating in competitive sports, the chance that they might have to compete against a "real" woman or the requirement that they let everyone else know about their private medical records?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think any of this matters until you get to college level or olympic level sports, at which point I highly doubt it would dissuade any would be competitor. But I do think if it got bad enough it could dissuade women. For example, if you just let men compete openly and without scrutiny in any women's athletics competition, which seems to be what some people are advocating for here.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think any of this matters until you get to college level or olympic level sports

The youngest Olympian this year was 12. The youngest Olympian ever was 11.

at which point I highly doubt it would dissuade any would be competitor.

Why? Why would any woman want to not only prove their biological sex, but allow that private medical information to be public?

For example, if you just let men compete openly and without scrutiny in any women’s athletics competition

How about letting women compete openly and without scrutiny in any men's athletics competition? Shouldn't men be tested too?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

All of this I've covered in this thread except the last point.

I don't have any problem with women competing openly and without scrutiny in men's athletics competition because I can't think of any sport where it would confer an advantage. If there were one, I would be against it in that sport. Though safety would still need to be a consideration in any contact sport.

Also worth mentioning, I am not against the idea of getting away from the idea of having sports separated by sex completely, and somehow tiering them by ability. But I think that would be exceedingly difficult to do in a way where it was safe and fair for everyone, especially when it comes to boxing and martial arts. But for other non contact sports, I don't see any reason to have a division by sex at all, just have tiers from best to worst.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which other threads? I'm supposed to find everything you wrote in conversations with other people in the hopes that I can find out why you think an 11-year-old Olympian shouldn't have their gender tested but an 18-year-old Olympian should?

Also, how do you define a gender-based advantage in a sport? Can you define it?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also covered under the threads spawning from this parent thread. I'm starting to feel trolled here, so please just read the comments under this parent thread, I've answered all your points already.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm trolling because you expect me to find all of your other conversations in a thread with over 150 posts to find out whether or not you actually answered my questions and I find that unreasonable? Really?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

They are literally all in branches of this thread. I'm not going to keep answering the same questions over and over (many of which I already answered for you specifically).