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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (44 children)

i've been told so many times on the lemmyverse that holding biden, trump and kamala accountable, in the only way that i can, for supporting genocide brands me a single issue voter; it's nice to see a reminder that others out there understand how truly morally bereft it is and give it the weight it deserves.

thanks for sharing; i needed to see it.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i suppose stop paying attention and shut up like the mods & users of lemmy.world and reddit keep pushing me to do.

honestly, i think that if hadn't have suffered as much as i did at the hands at biden, obama, both bush's & clinton i would probably agree with them.

my suffering PALES in comparison in ways that i don't want to imagine for those suffering in gaza and sharing my views and voting accordingly is easy now that i no longer live in texas, so i'll keep doing it; it's just nice to see the it's not the same 8 or 9 dozen lemmyverse users who also feel this way.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was an honest question, I'm not from the US, so I have no horse in the race.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

everyone does; whether or not you're american.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean I guess I'd rather Trump didn't win, but I can't do anything about it. So no, I have no horse in the race.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

so long as american bombs, american soldiers, or american money touch your country; you too will be impacted by this race.

the only way to plausibly ignore it is to be russian, chinese or western european; everyone else is the world is kowtowed to american hegemony, willing or not.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that's only true if you're somehow insulated from american hegemony.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Depends... We're all interconnected on some level. But i don't care anymore.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Green party and Cornel West are alternatives.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's an alternative that won't end up seating an insurrectionist leading a party that wants to nuke Gaza and send the National Guard to beat the shit out of protestors before moving on to ensuring Ukraine is wiped out?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Literally expand your political imagination outside of the presidency please. Democrats are doing genocide right now, things are going to keep getting worse the longer we don't build up a mass workers party. You can vote for Harris in November but building up a counter to Democrats and Republicans should be your primary concern.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The primary concern is keeping Repubs from taking over and ending elections, a prerequisite for your mass workers party to be viable. I would love to vote for that. Until the nation soundly rejects Repub fascism or changes to a sane voting system it isn't really an option.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lol worker's parties don't need bourgeois elections to win power. See, China, ussr, Cuba

[–] chloyster@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me. A thing I have a tangible effect on. I also don't want to get labeled a child molester and be executed come January due to project 2025. Harm reduction is a real and valid goal. Just because someone wants that doesn't mean they aren't trying to do other things that can help

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me.

Expand your political imagination, this isn't enough if you want to fight fascism.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Green party and Cornel West

Not sure if you're projecting Democrats beatdowns on anti Genocide protesters and their Genocide on the Republicans or are just in Blue Maga mode right now.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not, the Repubs have been agitating for really going after protesters. In addition to wanting to end voting, turn women into incubators, and such. They want to execute our LGBT neighbors.

"Blue MAGA" won't become a real thing if you keep saying it, it just shows that you're completely out of touch with reality.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You mean like the Democrats which are paid by Zionists to violently crack down on student protesters?

American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel's war in Gaza and urged New York City's mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

And

Cops pumping rubber bullets into the UCLA student protest

And

Cops taser a handcuffed protester at Emory University

I'm sure you care so much about LGBT right and aren't just using it as an excuse to push an agenda. Just like you care so much about brown people being Genocided by the Democrats.

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