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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.
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Midnight last day of December means indefinitely sustainable, without further degradation. This doesn't mean entirely withot alteration, since even early hunter-gatherers made several megafauna species extinct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Pleistocene_extinctions
Net zero is optimistic. The world isn't constant, there are catastrophes even without our doing.