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[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, this community's carked it. Its ruler is just waiting another day or so to make sure it doesn't get back up before issuing the death certificate and moving on. I wouldn't have thought this would be so easy but Lemmy wasn't made by nor for anarchists so I guess there wasn't much we could've done but watch it happen and get banned/posts deleted for talking about it.

[–] Ambii@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Lemmy was made by and for Marxist-Leninists but they're very openly non-sectarian, meaning any leftist who doesn't instigate in-fighting is welcome.

It's really just blahaj that's this way, I don't know what ada has been doing but this is gonna keep happening until she gets it together.

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

My point was that a system not (as) dependent on hierarchy might've stood up better. It's not "those icky tankies are so bad even software they wrote magically works against us" but "this software is built in a way that makes our Communities (the subreddit-like construct specific to Lemmy) depend entirely on like three people... when we're lucky." When one of the three gets bullied out of the community he made and the other two don't have the community's interests at heart, the community's screwed unless some specific person steps up to be the authority for a new one.

...On the other paw, perhaps our failure to just go make a new, collaborative Liberty Hub reflects poorly on us. I don't mind blaming the instance a bit, though. Dunno what I'd consider a safer, more sensible one at this point.

[–] Ambii@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ahh I see what you mean.

Honestly it comes down more to the fact that nobody else stepped up to mod before the drama.

A holdover from reddit culture is having a tight knit group of mods for each community, when it could very well be more open than that.

For example the /c/Trans comm here and /c/traa on hexbear.

/c/Trans here did open recruitment a while ago and pretty much anybody that was interested got added to the team and subsequently the matrix chat.

Hexbears /c/traa will add pretty much anyone that's been active in the community and is trans in order to have moderation available around the clock. As a result any bad apples are culled asap, and the community is much better for it.

I do agree that there could be something that isn't so top heavy though, but I'm not personally sure what such a system would look like.

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